68gtxsurvivor
mopar addict
Reged: Sep 14 2003
Loc: Lexington,VA
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I was looking into a stroker kit to make my 400 a 500 and they say it requires champerd bearings like a 440 does but says you have to do it yourself.Not crazy about that idea, does anyone know of a source for the champerd bearings?
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gregsdart
master
Reged: Jan 21 2003
Loc: Frostbite falls, Mn ( Home of ...
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Wheeler racing Engines, Blaine minnesota
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CompetitionWedge
top fuel
Reged: Nov 03 2004
Loc: Syracuse,NY
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There are none. You'll have to do it yourself or have a shop do it for you.
I do them on a fixture on a lathe, but you can certainly do them by hand as well.
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JohnRR
WAA-ambulance chaser
Reged: Jan 20 2003
Loc: U.S.S.A.
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I have an Eagle crank in my 383 based stroker and it doesn't need chamfered bearings ? the ONLY bearing the MIGHT need a chamfer is the thrust bearing , but I didn't have to do that , granted my Crank is .010 under so obviously whoever cut it knew what they were doiong , but when it was std. it still didn't need chamfered bearings , and I still have those bearings ...
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ahy
top fuel
Reged: Jan 22 2007
Loc: IL
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Narrowing the bearings has the same effect as chamfering. I believe Muscle Motors keeps some narrowed B bearings on hand.
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65dragnet
mopar
Reged: Jan 15 2005
Loc: Indiana
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It's not that big of a deal to chamfer a bearing 
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METAL STORM
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Reged: Jul 10 2005
Loc: ELYRIA,OH
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but you can certainly do them by hand as well.
OK i'll bite.how do i do that?koffels did mine on the lathe but if i can do it.[chamfer]
thanks for any tips!
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Edited by METAL STORM (Thu Nov 19 2009 06:34 PM)
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jyrki
top fuel
Reged: Jan 21 2003
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I hvae done them with a regular hand file. It's not rocket science.
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B G Racing
Barnyard Bob
Reged: Mar 28 2006
Loc: Eighty Four, PA
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WE put the bearings in an old rod and carefully champher them with a bearing knife or other sutable tool.Them we dress them with crocus cloth lightly.The mains are done in the block bores. 
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1_WILD_RT
I Live Here
Reged: Jan 15 2004
Loc: Today? Who Knows?
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The mains are done in the block bores.
Seems like for the mains you could take a couple spare main caps & bolt them together with nuts & long bolts then mount it in a vise...
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B G Racing
Barnyard Bob
Reged: Mar 28 2006
Loc: Eighty Four, PA
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The mains are done in the block bores.
Seems like for the mains you could take a couple spare main caps & bolt them together with nuts & long bolts then mount it in a vise...
You can,but we like to do them in the block we are using since not all block caps and saddles are indicated(located) exactly the same.Why cut too much or not enough.Crank to crank and block to block vary,clearence what's needed for a particular block and a particular crank.We see some cranks that need clearence on only one or two journals .
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bcrproducts
super gas
Reged: Nov 02 2003
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WE put the bearings in an old rod and carefully champher them with a bearing knife or other sutable tool.Them we dress them with crocus cloth lightly.The mains are done in the block bores.
Here is what I did. I went one step further. Tighten up the rod and cut the rod off with a bandsaw. Locate the rod bore on a lathe and take the outer side down until it is circular. Takes about ten minutes on a lathe. Now you have a two part circular fixture that can now be clamped on the outer surface in a lathe and the chamfering can be done in minutes by any competant machinist. I guarantee if you have an old rod and a case of beer any machine shop will do this for you on a Friday afternoon.
Greg
www.bcrproducts.com
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Cab_Burge
I Live Here
Reged: Aug 23 2003
Loc: Bend,OR USA
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I'm sure that most of the stroker kits come with BB Chevy rod journal so why not buy the stock chamfer HD bearings for your crankshaft rod journal size  I use the Federal Mogul HD rod bearings.
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B G Racing
Barnyard Bob
Reged: Mar 28 2006
Loc: Eighty Four, PA
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WE put the bearings in an old rod and carefully champher them with a bearing knife or other sutable tool.Them we dress them with crocus cloth lightly.The mains are done in the block bores.
Here is what I did. I went one step further. Tighten up the rod and cut the rod off with a bandsaw. Locate the rod bore on a lathe and take the outer side down until it is circular. Takes about ten minutes on a lathe. Now you have a two part circular fixture that can now be clamped on the outer surface in a lathe and the chamfering can be done in minutes by any competant machinist. I guarantee if you have an old rod and a case of beer any machine shop will do this for you on a Friday afternoon.
Greg
www.bcrproducts.com
 Great Idea,but many don't have access to a lathe or machine shop.We do many different journal sizes.
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B G Racing
Barnyard Bob
Reged: Mar 28 2006
Loc: Eighty Four, PA
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I'm sure that most of the stroker kits come with BB Chevy rod journal so why not buy the stock chamfer HD bearings for your crankshaft rod journal size I use the Federal Mogul HD rod bearings.
We find that a lot of cheaper kits still need correction even with the radiused or narrow-N bearing.
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METAL STORM
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Reged: Jul 10 2005
Loc: ELYRIA,OH
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I'm sure that most of the stroker kits come with BB Chevy rod journal so why not buy the stock chamfer HD bearings for your crankshaft rod journal size I use the Federal Mogul HD rod bearings.
We find that a lot of cheaper kits still need correction even with the radiused or narrow-N bearing.
thanks for the tips guys!even with the narow baring on mine i needed to do the edge of the rod barings. 
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JohnRR
WAA-ambulance chaser
Reged: Jan 20 2003
Loc: U.S.S.A.
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I'm sure that most of the stroker kits come with BB Chevy rod journal so why not buy the stock chamfer HD bearings for your crankshaft rod journal size I use the Federal Mogul HD rod bearings.
We find that a lot of cheaper kits still need correction even with the radiused or narrow-N bearing.
thanks for the tips guys!even with the narow baring on mine i needed to do the edge of the rod barings.
If you have to do that with the NARROW bearing you should be having that crank put in a crank grinder and checked with an arnold gauge because it's really got issues .
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B G Racing
Barnyard Bob
Reged: Mar 28 2006
Loc: Eighty Four, PA
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I'm sure that most of the stroker kits come with BB Chevy rod journal so why not buy the stock chamfer HD bearings for your crankshaft rod journal size I use the Federal Mogul HD rod bearings.
We find that a lot of cheaper kits still need correction even with the radiused or narrow-N bearing.
thanks for the tips guys!even with the narow baring on mine i needed to do the edge of the rod barings.
If you have to do that with the NARROW bearing you should be having that crank put in a crank grinder and checked with an arnold gauge because it's really got issues .
Not really,regrinding the crank negates any saving that buying a low cost kit gained in the first place,cut the bearings and move on.There are lots of cranks with big radius's and radiused bearing that are running fine.
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METAL STORM
addict
Reged: Jul 10 2005
Loc: ELYRIA,OH
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to bad you could not take a cone shape sanding bit like for cylinder bores and do the barings.it is cheeper to do with a file though.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIGc3qNwmdU
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B G Racing
Barnyard Bob
Reged: Mar 28 2006
Loc: Eighty Four, PA
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to bad you could not take a cone shape sanding bit like for cylinder bores and do the barings.it is cheeper to do with a file though.
That would be a NO-NO,cone sanders would tear at the surfaces and inbed material into the bearing.Remember some of these bearings can have up to 3 layers and coatings.
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Cranky
member
Reged: Sep 15 2009
Loc: Pasagetdowndena
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arnold gauge?
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METAL STORM
addict
Reged: Jul 10 2005
Loc: ELYRIA,OH
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got ya! i do have some old rods[LY] to hold them for filing.
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Cranky
member
Reged: Sep 15 2009
Loc: Pasagetdowndena
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Never mind.....
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