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rickstershemi
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B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE****
      #5554452 - Mon Oct 19 2009 01:25 PM

Came UPS today if anyone is looking for a deal I got these off Ebay through "WSD" (Worldwide Suspension Distributors, LLC) out of Miami, FL

Part #'s
4210584
4210585

$144.12 Shipped for both sides

Going on my Son's 83 D150 2WD Short Box.







Also snapped a few other pics with the camera rather than my cell phone

New Seats




Dash and Door Panels painted with Zolatone






Engine Mockup



Rickster

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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....!!!!!!!!!! [Re: rickstershemi]
      #5554500 - Mon Oct 19 2009 02:02 PM

Ok what exactly do you have to do to them to make them work on a truck? Do you have to grind off the steering stop and drill the hole for the strut rod or can you simply swap sides?

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rickstershemi
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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....!!!!!!!!!! [Re: 88_mopar]
      #5554634 - Mon Oct 19 2009 03:48 PM

Quote:

Ok what exactly do you have to do to them to make them work on a truck? Do you have to grind off the steering stop and drill the hole for the strut rod or can you simply swap sides?




Not sure if you can leave the stop and just shorten the strut yet or just cut the stop off..??? But yes you have to drill the holes for the strut bolts...

Rickster

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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....!!!!!!!!!! [Re: rickstershemi]
      #5557828 - Wed Oct 21 2009 05:35 AM

Anything else to change? Ball Joints?
How deep are the pockets??

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rickstershemi
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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....!!!!!!!!!! [Re: 1964Polara]
      #5558759 - Wed Oct 21 2009 05:29 PM

Quote:

Anything else to change? Ball Joints?
How deep are the pockets??

Cheers




No other modifications needed other than the strut holes being drilled and the pocket is 2-inches lower than the stock LCA's

Rickster

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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....!!!!!!!!!! [Re: rickstershemi]
      #5558899 - Wed Oct 21 2009 06:48 PM

thank's for the pic Rick. ..was thinking of doing the same thing myself. RK

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1964Polara
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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....!!!!!!!!!! [Re: rickstershemi]
      #5560018 - Thu Oct 22 2009 10:06 AM

Great! Just ordered a pair.......

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1moparman
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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....!!!!!!!!!! [Re: 1964Polara]
      #5561516 - Thu Oct 22 2009 11:53 PM

hmm sounds pretty good to me that would be the same as 1 ton truck arms but with out the drilling, but you would have to change the ball joint to the correct size? is this correct? is one way lower than the other? or the same seem this is the way to go and pretty cheap too!

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rickstershemi
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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....!!!!!!!!!! [Re: 1moparman]
      #5561904 - Fri Oct 23 2009 08:52 AM

Quote:

hmm sounds pretty good to me that would be the same as 1 ton truck arms but with out the drilling, but you would have to change the ball joint to the correct size? is this correct? is one way lower than the other? or the same seem this is the way to go and pretty cheap too!




You only have to drill the holes for the strut and looks like the stop will have to be cut off.....the ball joint is the same, no reason to change.

I test fit them last night and am planning on installing them today....will take photo's of the install to post.

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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....!!!!!!!!!! [Re: rickstershemi]
      #5561925 - Fri Oct 23 2009 09:10 AM

Thanks for the pics. I also had real good luck with the WSD guys off ebay.

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1moparman
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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....!!!!!!!!!! [Re: BIGMIKE@GAUGE]
      #5562086 - Fri Oct 23 2009 11:05 AM

so what are you going to do in the back a longer shackle? or less springs?

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rickstershemi
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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: 1moparman]
      #5563524 - Fri Oct 23 2009 10:57 PM

Installed the new Van LCA's today....it was a snap...

Stop removed and Strut Bolt Holes Drilled


Made a simple Template to Transfer the Strut Hole Locations


Violia Done


Ride height is right where we want it






Rickster

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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: rickstershemi]
      #5563947 - Sat Oct 24 2009 09:51 AM

im impressed. gonna ad a sway bar.

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BulletBob
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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: slantsic]
      #5563986 - Sat Oct 24 2009 10:25 AM

Rickster, that's is exactly how I did it. Although some members here told me I didn't because they don't fit. I'm glad you posted the pics. Bob

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1moparman
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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: BulletBob]
      #5564041 - Sat Oct 24 2009 11:05 AM

from the middle picture it looks like you allready have rear shackles where did you get those

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coronet1966d
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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: 1moparman]
      #5564085 - Sat Oct 24 2009 11:43 AM

i used longer rear shackles on my truck, ordered them from summit for a 2001 chevy 1500 2WD they were $45 and fit just fine

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rickstershemi
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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: slantsic]
      #5564989 - Sat Oct 24 2009 09:20 PM

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im impressed. gonna ad a sway bar.




Thanks Mike, not sure will have to see how it drives, the same company has the UCA's for $99 a pair with ball joints and bushings....planning on updating the whole front suspension, don't want any surprises

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rickstershemi
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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: BulletBob]
      #5564999 - Sat Oct 24 2009 09:26 PM

Quote:

Rickster, that's is exactly how I did it. Although some members here told me I didn't because they don't fit. I'm glad you posted the pics. Bob




Happy to help Bob....guess they work huh

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rickstershemi
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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: 1moparman]
      #5565015 - Sat Oct 24 2009 09:37 PM

Quote:

from the middle picture it looks like you allready have rear shackles where did you get those




I found them on eBay Brian tried to find the seller but can't find his info any longer They are the same spec as mentioned in an above post by "coronet1966d" ....We also flipped the front spring perches which gave us a total of about 5" - 6" in drop

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coronet1966d
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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: rickstershemi]
      #5565075 - Sat Oct 24 2009 10:08 PM

Quote:

Quote:

from the middle picture it looks like you allready have rear shackles where did you get those




I found them on eBay Brian tried to find the seller but can't find his info any longer They are the same spec as mentioned in an above post by "coronet1966d" ....We also flipped the front spring perches which gave us a total of about 5" - 6" in drop

Rickster




have a picture of that?

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rickstershemi
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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: coronet1966d]
      #5565083 - Sat Oct 24 2009 10:12 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

from the middle picture it looks like you allready have rear shackles where did you get those




I found them on eBay Brian tried to find the seller but can't find his info any longer They are the same spec as mentioned in an above post by "coronet1966d" ....We also flipped the front spring perches which gave us a total of about 5" - 6" in drop

Rickster




have a picture of that?




No but will take a cpl tomorrow for ya....it's really simple....just cut out the rivets, flip the bracket, drill new holes and use grade-8 bolts....done

Rickster

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1moparman
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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: rickstershemi]
      #5565271 - Sun Oct 25 2009 12:15 AM

iv'e heard of doing to the rear on a 4x to lift it never thought about doing it to the front pics would be great!

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rickstershemi
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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: 1moparman]
      #5565647 - Sun Oct 25 2009 10:06 AM

Here are some pics I snapped this morning of the front spring perch flip and the chebby rear shackle install:









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coronet1966d
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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: rickstershemi]
      #5565730 - Sun Oct 25 2009 11:01 AM

what shocks did you end up using?

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rickstershemi
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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: coronet1966d]
      #5565849 - Sun Oct 25 2009 12:07 PM

Quote:

what shocks did you end up using?




The stock shocks work...will be going with heavy duty Monroe gas shocks front and rear....looking at moving the rear shock top mounts closer to the wheels to lessen the angle...will have to figure what length will work and go from there...

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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: rickstershemi]
      #5588860 - Thu Nov 05 2009 09:43 PM

What year will work. Im going to the jy tomorrow(went today and saw at least 4 sets. Anyone interested Ill get them. Thanks

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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: 76dodgeboy]
      #5588866 - Thu Nov 05 2009 09:50 PM

From those part #'s you posted they decode to the 3300# LCA (there is also a 3600# available-dont know if only diff is screw in vs press in ball joint)

Shows that they fit 79 thru 97 vans, so plenty of years to hunt for!

Found this info on RockAuto.com.

Your cost on those was a killer deal! Rock wants about that for just one side.


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rickstershemi
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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: hp383]
      #5588901 - Thu Nov 05 2009 10:11 PM

Quote:

From those part #'s you posted they decode to the 3300# LCA (there is also a 3600# available-dont know if only diff is screw in vs press in ball joint)

Shows that they fit 79 thru 97 vans, so plenty of years to hunt for!

Found this info on RockAuto.com.

Your cost on those was a killer deal! Rock wants about that for just one side.




They seem to have an unlimited supply....for how long is anyones guess....

Rickster

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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: hp383]
      #5589057 - Thu Nov 05 2009 11:43 PM

Quote:

From those part #'s you posted they decode to the 3300# LCA (there is also a 3600# available-dont know if only diff is screw in vs press in ball joint)

Shows that they fit 79 thru 97 vans, so plenty of years to hunt for!

Found this info on RockAuto.com.The B250 5 lug is 3300# front & the B250 8 lug is the heavier 3600# front. The ball joint for the 5 lug is the same for D100-150 The pivot hole is the same too. The 3600# of coarse is bigger in these places requiring drilling the holes for the steering arms in the spindle bigger and the pivot hole in the frame bigger too. The van lca is the way.

Your cost on those was a killer deal! Rock wants about that for just one side.




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rickstershemi
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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: BulletBob]
      #5589326 - Fri Nov 06 2009 07:47 AM

Quote:

Quote:

From those part #'s you posted they decode to the 3300# LCA (there is also a 3600# available-dont know if only diff is screw in vs press in ball joint)

Shows that they fit 79 thru 97 vans, so plenty of years to hunt for!

Found this info on RockAuto.com.The B250 5 lug is 3300# front & the B250 8 lug is the heavier 3600# front. The ball joint for the 5 lug is the same for D100-150 The pivot hole is the same too. The 3600# of coarse is bigger in these places requiring drilling the holes for the steering arms in the spindle bigger and the pivot hole in the frame bigger too. The van lca is the way.

Your cost on those was a killer deal! Rock wants about that for just one side.







The LCA's I used and listed DO NOT require anu modification to the frame mount.....just needs to have the holes located and drilled for the struts...

Rickster

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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: rickstershemi]
      #5589375 - Fri Nov 06 2009 08:20 AM

looks awasome!

the front hanger flip is great

I used that front hanger on the rear to flip the shackle then floped the axle on top of spring

I will be fliping the front and fliping the shackle in the rear also on the 440 truck

I am still up in the air on the pocket lca,I have already took out one with a small tree stump (6" high and 4") round in my buddy yard I did not see

the sway bar just clears a parking stop..I am not sure I want it any lower up front for daily street duty ..already snaped a lower end link off at the nut and needs replaced got that from a pot hole gotta watch the truck traps

I will be looking for the final stance you get when said and done

has any one done the flip flop and flip the front hanger??



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BulletBob
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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: rickstershemi]
      #5590979 - Sat Nov 07 2009 03:24 AM

Rickster the ones that you have are B250 5lug 3300# these you don't have to drill. The 8 lug ones require all the extra drilling different steering arms. You have to drill the strut rod holes in them all.

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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: rickstershemi]
      #5594691 - Mon Nov 09 2009 09:25 AM

Quote:

Quote:

From those part #'s you posted they decode to the 3300# LCA (there is also a 3600# available-dont know if only diff is screw in vs press in ball joint)

Shows that they fit 79 thru 97 vans, so plenty of years to hunt for!

Found this info on RockAuto.com.

Your cost on those was a killer deal! Rock wants about that for just one side.




They seem to have an unlimited supply....for how long is anyones guess....

Rickster




That supply may have just dried up. I just found this thread and went hunting for them for my 2wd RC, and I couldn't find those arms.


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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: Cooter]
      #5594718 - Mon Nov 09 2009 09:40 AM

NM- I found them. Were listed for "Ram Wagon", but you couldn't search that term because they didn't leave a space between "wagon" and "1500" in the listing. The price has gone up almost $30ea, as well...

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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: Cooter]
      #5594808 - Mon Nov 09 2009 10:30 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...atchlink:top:en $155 shipped for the pair they are on sale 4 more days they have 10 sets

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rickstershemi
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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: 1moparman]
      #5595705 - Mon Nov 09 2009 06:42 PM

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...atchlink:top:en $155 shipped for the pair they are on sale 4 more days they have 10 sets




Here also....same place I got mine. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CONTROL-A...sQ5fAccessories

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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: 1moparman]
      #5598875 - Wed Nov 11 2009 11:22 AM

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...atchlink:top:en $155 shipped for the pair they are on sale 4 more days they have 10 sets


Thanks, 1moparman!! I just paypaled them.

Rickster, the other link was to the ones that I found, but they are now over $88ea plus shipping.


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rickstershemi
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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: Cooter]
      #5599293 - Wed Nov 11 2009 04:14 PM

Quote:

Quote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...atchlink:top:en $155 shipped for the pair they are on sale 4 more days they have 10 sets


Thanks, 1moparman!! I just paypaled them.

Rickster, the other link was to the ones that I found, but they are now over $88ea plus shipping.




If you notice they are all Miami based....I believe they are actually the same outfit Congrats on getting the best deal....the prices seem to change from week to week

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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: rickstershemi]
      #5599938 - Wed Nov 11 2009 10:06 PM

Huge props to you for starting the thread. At this rate, I won't be using either set of my Chisolm LCAs, though.

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Re: B250 VAN LOWER CONTROL ARMS....****UPDATE**** [Re: Cooter]
      #5599955 - Wed Nov 11 2009 10:10 PM

Wannto sell them

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