FatDsoto
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Reged: Jan 15 2007
Loc: Central New York
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Has anybody tried using a product called Armaflex to insulate the inside of their car? It is used in the HVAC industry as pipe insulation. It can be bought in sheets from 1/4" to 1" thick. It is glued with contact cement. It is a closed cell rubber product.The price is low, especially compared to some of these other products like Dynamat or others. Just wondered if anyone could say it's good or bad for this use.
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49wayfarer
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Reged: Mar 06 2008
Loc: SE Wisconsin
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I was just at Lowes looking at insulation for HVAC, was going to use it for headliner, floor and firewall. Came in rolls 16" wide I think, 1/4" thick and adhesive on the back for $15. R value was only 3, but I thought it would be good enough and help deaden some road noise and rattles.
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FatDsoto
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Reged: Jan 15 2007
Loc: Central New York
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This stuff is as cheap but far denser and it is closed cell. Easy to work with. I have seen the stuff at the Home Centers too but this will work way better. Thanks for the reply.
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RAT PATROL
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Reged: Nov 06 2007
Loc: Oregon,USA
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Yes, been using it since the 60s. You can see it in the trunk of my coupe. It is designed for refrigeration but is also used as a sound deadener on pipes and air ducts. 
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fstfish66
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Reged: Dec 26 2004
Loc: levittown pa
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where can you purchase this armaflex ???
thanks in advance
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1966 barracuda prostreeter super charged 340
1940 dodge coupe 241 hemi street rod
2002 cumins ram dailey driver 2008 pacifica
R/T challenger,,dream car
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RAT PATROL
enthusiast
Reged: Nov 06 2007
Loc: Oregon,USA
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You can purchase it at any insulation company or insulation distributor. We use Armstrong 520 glue to nail it down. If you know a pipe insulator they are pretty good at this (30 years). When I get back home I'll be doing the interior floorboards too.
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fstfish66
super stock
Reged: Dec 26 2004
Loc: levittown pa
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if you get the chance some pics of the material in place would be great,,,i hope to soon insulate my 66 from heat and sound,,,thanks
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1966 barracuda prostreeter super charged 340
1940 dodge coupe 241 hemi street rod
2002 cumins ram dailey driver 2008 pacifica
R/T challenger,,dream car
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RAT PATROL
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Reged: Nov 06 2007
Loc: Oregon,USA
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Started on the armaflex interior today. I've only been out of the field for a year and already I'm rusty. Started with the harder areas like the tunnel. 1/2 inch thick armaflex and 520 glue. A very sharp knife.
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RAT PATROL
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Reged: Nov 06 2007
Loc: Oregon,USA
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Then tackled the firewall. Lots of little pieces here, take your time. 
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RAT PATROL
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Reged: Nov 06 2007
Loc: Oregon,USA
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What the heck did I do all weekend. Well some of this and some of that. 
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RAT PATROL
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Reged: Nov 06 2007
Loc: Oregon,USA
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Of course everything went perfect until I went to mount the console. The thickness of the insulation would not let the mounts line up anymore. So I drew a chalk line along the console and trimmed the insulation along the line, glued the carpet back, and remounted the console. Okay one or two bad words might have slipped out. 
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RAT PATROL
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Reged: Nov 06 2007
Loc: Oregon,USA
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Hooked up the gauges and mounted the dash. Next I need to insulate between the trunk bulkhead and interior rear wall. 
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moparx
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Reged: Sep 03 2003
Loc: north of coder
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lookin good ! nothing like a sucessfull weekend to stay motivated !
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fstfish66
super stock
Reged: Dec 26 2004
Loc: levittown pa
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nice loking job,,,, i hope i remember this topic when i insulate my cuda,,,
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1966 barracuda prostreeter super charged 340
1940 dodge coupe 241 hemi street rod
2002 cumins ram dailey driver 2008 pacifica
R/T challenger,,dream car
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RAT PATROL
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Reged: Nov 06 2007
Loc: Oregon,USA
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Started on the rear bulkhead area.
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RAT PATROL
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Reged: Nov 06 2007
Loc: Oregon,USA
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This is where your age starts to show up a bit. I am sore today from reaching through that access hole all day.
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RAT PATROL
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Reged: Nov 06 2007
Loc: Oregon,USA
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I still have a little more to do in there, but if you want it done right, you have to hire a real insulator. It's pretty easy to find one that will work for food and beer.
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RAT PATROL
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Reged: Nov 06 2007
Loc: Oregon,USA
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Finished the floorboards with armaflex.
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RAT PATROL
enthusiast
Reged: Nov 06 2007
Loc: Oregon,USA
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Even did inside the doors.
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300by500
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Reged: Dec 19 2005
Loc: Bowling Green KY / Nashville, ...
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Does it still contain asbestos?
Mesothelioma - products containing asbestos...
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RAT PATROL
enthusiast
Reged: Nov 06 2007
Loc: Oregon,USA
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I recognize a lot of the asbestos products there on that list, but in my career (1975 - 2010),I have never known Armaflex to contain any asbestos.
Description
Mold resistant AP/Armaflex Sheet & Roll Insulation is a flexible elastomeric thermal insulation, black in color. It is furnished with a smooth skin on one side which forms the outer exposed insulation surface. The expanded closed-cell structure of Armaflex makes it an efficient insulation. It is manufactured without the use of CFC's, HCFC's, or HFC's. It is also formaldehyde-free, dust free, low VOCs, fiber free and resists mold and mildew. All AP Armaflex products are made with MicrobanŽ antimicrobial product protection for added defense against mold on the insulation.
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convx4
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Reged: Feb 09 2005
Loc: st louis mo
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I make use of this material at work. As a padding when having to work on the ground or on grading. If it gets wet it will hold water. It cuts nice with an old electric knife. Tough stuff. 
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Supercuda
top fuel
Reged: Sep 04 2007
Loc: West Texas
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Quote:
Does it still contain asbestos?
Mesothelioma - products containing asbestos...
Every shingle on my house is asbestos, guess I'm a dead man walking, lol.
Look out, that there asbestos is hiding in the bushes waiting to jump me, lol.
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4bbl
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Reged: Jun 22 2005
Loc: Iowa,US
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As long as it isn't friable it can be full of asbestos and do no harm. What's the prob? I will prob use it.
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gatorboy93
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Reged: Jan 28 2010
Loc: Clemmons, NC
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You can purchase it at any insulation company or insulation distributor. We use Armstrong 520 glue to nail it down. If you know a pipe insulator they are pretty good at this (30 years). When I get back home I'll be doing the interior floorboards too.
Does it remove vibrations as well? What is 520 glue, is it aerosol or brush on? what thickness did you use on firewall and floor?
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rowin4
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Reged: Jun 30 2005
Loc: gulfport, ms, west mi
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Will it absorb and retain moisture ? 
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it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
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RAT PATROL
enthusiast
Reged: Nov 06 2007
Loc: Oregon,USA
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Armstrong 520 Glue, brush it on, it's a contact adhesive. Armaflex does not contain asbestos. I use 1/2" on the firewall and 3/4" on the floor. It is water repellent, but if continually exposed to water it will soak it up. It also makes a great mat for under car work.
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