Commando1
member
Reged: Mar 16 2007
Loc: South-Central (Sebring), FL
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His words, not mine.
This is what gets me. Read all the copy about how perfect and 100% accurate this car is (even calls it a "reference" car - hah) and then check out the electric dumps (sloppily wired I might add).....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-Rar...=item4149f5bd4d
Edited by Commando1 (Sat Oct 31 2009 08:44 AM)
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Pacnorthcuda
Down Shifting
Reged: Nov 19 2007
Loc: Kirkland, Washington
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Post link!
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ScottSmith_Harms
Doc Bug
Reged: Jan 20 2003
Loc: Spokane Washington
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Not to mention that 426 Street Wedges didn't have dumps (electric or otherwise) heck they didn't even have a balance tube!
Having once owned and restored the 64 426S 4 speed Fury convertible pilot car I can tell you that the exhaust isn't the only thing wrong with that car concerning it being a "reference" restoration. Nothing against the owner either, nice car and all but a "reference" resto it is not.
Same goes for the Mopar magazines these days, you can offer them 100% accurate/good info on a car and yet they STILL screw it up royally by press time, makes you wonder if they even listened at all? I blame it on poor writers/editing, they have screwed up every article I've ever had a hand in, all but one in fact and the "good one" was one Randy Bolig from Mopar Muscle was involved with (kudos to Randy!  ). He's the ONLY magazine guy I trust at all these days.
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flypaper
ABJ Toady
Reged: Jan 19 2003
Loc: ocean county, new jersey
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Same goes for the Mopar magazines these days, you can offer them 100% accurate/good info on a car and yet they STILL screw it up royally by press time, makes you wonder if they even listened at all? I blame it on poor writers/editing, they have screwed up every article I've ever had a hand in, all but one in fact and the "good one" was one Randy Bolig from Mopar Muscle was involved with (kudos to Randy! ). He's the ONLY magazine guy I trust at all these days.
what about djv at mopar enthusiast??
he seems like a straight foward guy...
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GOLDENCOMMANDO
%$#@!
Reged: Sep 11 2006
Loc: South Dakota
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this one comes with the rare tri-y
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-Oth...5fCarsQ5fTrucks
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ScottSmith_Harms
Doc Bug
Reged: Jan 20 2003
Loc: Spokane Washington
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this one comes with the rare tri-y
Half a set anyway, good luck finding the other one. If I'm not mistaken that one he has has made the rounds, it has several old welding repairs if it's the one I've held in my hands.
*I've yet to help with an article in Mopar Enthusiast Magazine, hopefully someday I will and the results will be better than the others I've delt with.
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hemi71x
super gas
Reged: Jan 20 2003
Loc: Rancho Cordova, California (Sa...
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I'm the guy that originally had that Tri-Y exhaust manifold before i sold it off years ago.
It went back east, and has changed hands numerous times since then.
As far as i'm concerned the other side doesn't exist, as one has never turned up in untold years.
Edited by hemi71x (Sat Oct 31 2009 12:30 AM)
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sixpakdodge
master
Reged: Aug 07 2005
Loc: PA
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The OP is talking about the '64 Dodge 440 that Best Of Show Automotive has currently. It's the red/red 4-speed car.
They currently have a Superbird for sale that is totally misrepresented as well... 
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ScottSmith_Harms
Doc Bug
Reged: Jan 20 2003
Loc: Spokane Washington
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I'm the guy that originally had that Tri-Y exhaust manifold before i sold it off years ago.
It went back east, and has changed hands numerous times since then.
As far as i'm concerned the other side doesn't exist, as one has never turned up in untold years.
Yea, I've never seen a spare passenger side, only a complete pair or two, not many out there that's for sure!
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ScottSmith_Harms
Doc Bug
Reged: Jan 20 2003
Loc: Spokane Washington
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These did not actually come installed on cars, only experimental castings AFAIK
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Commando1
member
Reged: Mar 16 2007
Loc: South-Central (Sebring), FL
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Post link!
Duhhhhhhhhhhhhh
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-Rar...=item4149f5bd4d
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Commando1
member
Reged: Mar 16 2007
Loc: South-Central (Sebring), FL
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Having once owned and restored...
Slightly OT, Scott, but, how about updating the RO23 resto on your site?. The suspense is killing me...
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ScottSmith_Harms
Doc Bug
Reged: Jan 20 2003
Loc: Spokane Washington
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I have some componant pics of the R/O to upload but the biggest holdup is currently the bodyman. I don't have anything worthwhile to post just yet but it shouldn't be too much longer, hang in there!
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ademon
top fuel
Reged: Sep 06 2004
Loc: IL,
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Scott is the (good 0ne) artical the one you did in the Chicago burb? 71 hemi cuda, that was one of the best write ups i have read.
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ScottSmith_Harms
Doc Bug
Reged: Jan 20 2003
Loc: Spokane Washington
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Yes. They let me write it and did not alter it at all, Randy let it run as submitted. I don't profess to be a writer by any shake, but at least the facts are straight!
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Diego (not Ted)
supercilious
Reged: Jan 21 2003
Loc: Gabba Gabba Hey! NYC
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This is the same place that has the white/copper '67 Hemi GTX that has been discussed here and, I believe, is in the current issue of Hemmings Muscle Machines.
I think they're full of crap . . . and I don't mean because of their perceived value of the car.
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burdar
mopar addict
Reged: Oct 31 2006
Loc: Urbana Iowa
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Yes that is the same place that had the GTX. I believe it just recently sold.
If you look at the website, a lot...OK all...of the cars are descibed like that. That isn't the cars/owners fault. They have a guy that is incharge of all the content like that. Why he has to exagerate things like that, I don't know.
All I can say is that their bodyshop does very good work. The car in question took 1st place this year at the Nat's. They just sold the black with red stripe 70 Challenger R/T that they restored. That car was in MCG a few months ago.
My dad's 73 Challenger is in their bodyshop right now and they are doing a great job on it.
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Commando1
member
Reged: Mar 16 2007
Loc: South-Central (Sebring), FL
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My dad's 73 Challenger is in their bodyshop right now and they are doing a great job on it.
I have no doubt that they do good work and I am sure you and your dad will be more than pleased with the car.
What gets me is when dealers pimp a car like a $1000 per night [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean]. Superlatives, exagerations, misinformation, hyper enthusiasm, and a lack of knowledge of what truely makes the car a 100 pointer. They're nothing but used car salesmen no better than if they were pimpin a 1995 Corolla.
You can be absolutely assured that when buying a car from them you will NEVER, ever get a good deal.
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burdar
mopar addict
Reged: Oct 31 2006
Loc: Urbana Iowa
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I think you can say that about any dealer. They have to get there cut too. A lot of it has to do with the owner of the car wanting top dollar, then having to ask even more for the car so that once the commision is taken out there is still money left over.
I don't know much about consignments but there commisions don't seem to be out of line.
I agree with you on the "exagerations, misinformation, hyper enthusiasm" part of it. For some reason they think that helps the sale. They are selling a lot of cars so it can't be all bad but you are correct...I could do without all that other stuff. Just tell the facts and let the car speak for itself.
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Diego (not Ted)
supercilious
Reged: Jan 21 2003
Loc: Gabba Gabba Hey! NYC
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Y'know, the cars sell themselves. I don't need some greasy guy with a coke problem puffing up the description that obviously is pushing the truth.
Plus, they had a '72 GS Stage 1 that had a whole different history than what the truth really was. It was easy to figure out because how many black cars with under 15,000 miles are out there? It had been in a magazine, and it seems the GS community are pretty tight-knit and knew pretty much everything. I don't recall what happened with the car but they changed the history on their web site because word was getting out. It was especially strange because there was ABSOLUTELY NO REASON for the history to be changed.
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sixpakdodge
master
Reged: Aug 07 2005
Loc: PA
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Y'know, the cars sell themselves. I don't need some greasy guy with a coke problem puffing up the description that obviously is pushing the truth.
Plus, they had a '72 GS Stage 1 that had a whole different history than what the truth really was. It was easy to figure out because how many black cars with under 15,000 miles are out there? It had been in a magazine, and it seems the GS community are pretty tight-knit and knew pretty much everything. I don't recall what happened with the car but they changed the history on their web site because word was getting out. It was especially strange because there was ABSOLUTELY NO REASON for the history to be changed.
Believable.
The Tor-Red U code Superbird they have listed was wrecked hard in '74. No mention of that. They also claim new seat covers, foam, and carpet. I have pics from 2006 that say otherwise. The icing on the cake? It has a Govier decoded Broadcast Sheet. Funny because I know where the Broadcast Sheet to the car actually is...
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Diego (not Ted)
supercilious
Reged: Jan 21 2003
Loc: Gabba Gabba Hey! NYC
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I also wonder if this car qualifies as "rarest Street Wedge" since there must be some 4-doors and wagons that may be rarer, although I've never seen any production figures other than total for all Mopars for 1964.
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autoxcuda
I Live Here
Reged: Jan 20 2003
Loc: So Cal
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I also wonder if this car qualifies as "rarest Street Wedge" since there must be some 4-doors and wagons that may be rarer, although I've never seen any production figures other than total for all Mopars for 1964.
Wasn't there a 426 4speed C-body convertible like 64-66 that was tan metalic that won a 1st place or OE gold at NATS featured in one of the magazines 5-8 years ago. I think the car was out of Iowa.
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sixpakdodge
master
Reged: Aug 07 2005
Loc: PA
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I also wonder if this car qualifies as "rarest Street Wedge" since there must be some 4-doors and wagons that may be rarer, although I've never seen any production figures other than total for all Mopars for 1964.
Wasn't there a 426 4speed C-body convertible like 64-66 that was tan metalic that won a 1st place or OE gold at NATS featured in one of the magazines 5-8 years ago. I think the car was out of Iowa.
I know a guy who has a mint '65 Sport Fury convertible, 426W, 4-speed, power windows, and air conditioning. It's a gold-ish metallic color. It's from PA though and definitely OE Gold worthy if it's not the same car.
4-speed Street Wedges are generally more common than their automatic counterparts. But, according to the "White Book," There were only 2 1965 Belvedere I 4 door, 4-speed Sedan's built with the 426W and only one Belvedere II 4-door, 4-speed Sedan's with the 426W. Going to Dodge's, 3 '65 Deluxe 4-door, 4-speed Sedans and 2 '65 440 4-door, 4-speed Sedans. There is not a breakdown for 1964 cars.
IIRC correctly, that six number came from the number of 1964 Dodge 440 2-door hardtops with the 426W/4-speed combo that Galen had in the registry. So there are definitely more out there.
So yet again, another falsely advertised car from Best Of Show.
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Diego (not Ted)
supercilious
Reged: Jan 21 2003
Loc: Gabba Gabba Hey! NYC
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I remember a '65 Custom 880 ragtop with a 4-speed too - that's gotta be rare.
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sixpakdodge
master
Reged: Aug 07 2005
Loc: PA
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I remember a '65 Custom 880 ragtop with a 4-speed too - that's gotta be rare.
Do you remember where you saw that? I have a great interest in 426W cars.
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autoxcuda
I Live Here
Reged: Jan 20 2003
Loc: So Cal
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I remember a '65 Custom 880 ragtop with a 4-speed too - that's gotta be rare.
Do you remember where you saw that? I have a great interest in 426W cars.
The one I saw was on the cover of Mopar Muscle or High Performance Mopar, IIRC. About 5-8 years ago. Is the goldish one you mentioned in PA restored by the current owner? For some reason I think the article said the car had been in the family a long time? Could be my fainting memory.
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Diego (not Ted)
supercilious
Reged: Jan 21 2003
Loc: Gabba Gabba Hey! NYC
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I originally discovered the car in the Gast Museum in Strasburg, PA, but this nice museum near Lancaster doesn't exist anymore. I know it may have appeared in Mopar Muscle YEARS ago - perhaps as a little blurb in a multi-car feature? - and I think the people of Consumer Guide (who bring you Collectible Automobile magazine) have photos of it too. The little picture in the recesses of my brain show a white-ish car, so I think it's plausible that it could have been gold.
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