DusterDave
super stock
Reged: Jul 10 2010
Loc: In a Moab state of mind
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Very impressive, you are coming along nicely.
Here is what I built yesterday, gonna get the bars bent for the rear section tomorrow and tack them in. Then I'll take it to a real welder to do the final welding, I don't trust my self on cages.
Looking good! I wish I could afford a tubing bender so I could make my own cage. I see you started with a family roll bar. How are you going to mount the front tubes? If it were mine, I'd add some grab bars.
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mopar346
Slow Ride Dreamer
Reged: Jul 05 2007
Loc: Florida
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I had the tubes bent for me and then cut and fitted them and tacked them in place. As far as the front legs if that is what you are asking, they mount through the floor and will be tied to the frame. 1/4 inch plate as a foot on top of the tub, 1/4 plate in the bottom of the tub welded to a bar with a bushing mount to a bracket on the frame. The center and rear post will also be tied in. I thought about grab handles but will use the soft ones to avoid clearance issues and knots on the head.  The dash bar and the overhead spreaders are positioned well for it although I have concerns with the overhead as a handle. Like everything else it is an evolution so who knows what it will look like in 6 months. Someone has also suggested that the seats be tied in, but I'm not sure I'm sold on that yet.
Hopefully my rear bars will be done in the next hour or so, I need to keep moving.
Blasted the rough area in the tub yesterday, I'm gonna make one repair under the bar and then line it. My goal is to be back together by Sunday when I fly out.
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mopar346
Slow Ride Dreamer
Reged: Jul 05 2007
Loc: Florida
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Well I got my rear bars bent and I was in the process of cutting them to fit and my bar jig arbor broke so I'm dead in the water on that part. I am going to get the front welded up tomorrow and will put it in as is and then fit the rear and weld it when I get the replacement arbor. Bummer, but there is plenty more to do this week.
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DusterDave
super stock
Reged: Jul 10 2010
Loc: In a Moab state of mind
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Did some more work on the frame. Fabbed and welded in a body mount crossmember and two body mount brackets, shown in the foreground. Except for the new motor mounts and painting it, that should be it for the frame work. I think I'm going to spray the frame and axles single stage gunmetal gray.
I've made up my mind on the wheel and tire combo. For tires, I'm going with Nitto Trail Grapplers in 37x12.50R17. They will be mounted on Pro Comp Series 98's in size 17x9 with a 3.5" backspace. These wheels are basically the same as Cragar Soft 8's.
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Current project: '89 Jeep Wrangler frame-off, V8 stroker
Follow my Jeep build: http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=Warlock&Number=6792940&page=0&fpart=1
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mopar346
Slow Ride Dreamer
Reged: Jul 05 2007
Loc: Florida
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That's awesome, you do phenominal work. my welding is questionable, I took the cage to a pro to ensure penetration. Here is some of what we did over the Thanksgiving week, my son sprayed it himself, he just turned 18. Hope you don't mind.
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DusterDave
super stock
Reged: Jul 10 2010
Loc: In a Moab state of mind
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That's awesome, you do phenominal work. my welding is questionable, I took the cage to a pro to ensure penetration. Here is some of what we did over the Thanksgiving week, my son sprayed it himself, he just turned 18. Hope you don't mind.
Thanks. No biggie, just a piece of 2x2 and some 1" tubing, and lots of measuring. That's a nice job on the tub! I plan to cover the underside and the inside of my tub with Monstaliner.
Stay tuned. I'll have a rolling frame by the end of the month.
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mopar346
Slow Ride Dreamer
Reged: Jul 05 2007
Loc: Florida
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DusterDave
super stock
Reged: Jul 10 2010
Loc: In a Moab state of mind
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Spent my Sunday cleaning and prepping the Dana 44 front axle. I sprayed it down multiple times with purple degreaser, and blasted it with my pressure washer. After that, I cut off all of the brackets, and ground the axles tubes smooth. I would have removed all of the outer parts, but my efforts came to a screeching halt when I saw an inner spindle nut that requires a special tool to remove it. Found one online and ordered it.
My tires are on the way, should be here Wednesday. I bought Nitto Trail Grapplers, size 37x12.50R17. If any of you truck guys are looking for the best price on tires, check out discounttiredirect.com. I did a ton of internet surfing for tires, and they have the absolute best prices.
I ran into a road block with the wheels. The ones I wanted are on national back order, with at least a 10 week wait. The sticking point is that I want a wheel with less than 4" backspace, 3.50" would be ideal. The only other wheel I can find that fits my size needs are Allied RT51 beadlocks, which are more than what I want to spend. I would rather not use wheel spacers, not to mention they cost $200 by themselves. I need to consider my options some more.
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mopar346
Slow Ride Dreamer
Reged: Jul 05 2007
Loc: Florida
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Nice, are you gonna change to U-bolt style yokes? I know you said mall cruiser but most woudl recommend it.
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DusterDave
super stock
Reged: Jul 10 2010
Loc: In a Moab state of mind
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Nice, are you gonna change to U-bolt style yokes? I know you said mall cruiser but most woudl recommend it.
MALL CRUISER??? WHAT!!! Them's fightin' words, buddy!!!!!!  j/k
I've been so focused on the big stuff, my mind hasn't drilled down to the finer stuff like that, yet. I'm sure I'll be replacing those straps with u-bolts. I'm building the 390 into a torque monster, so those kinds of drivetrain reliability improvements will be needed.
OK, I made an executive decision. Here is the wheel I've chosen for my unlimited mall crawler.
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mopar346
Slow Ride Dreamer
Reged: Jul 05 2007
Loc: Florida
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I knew it......gonna be another lugnut polisher project.........j/k
Those are sweet 
Rickster
I blame Rickster for planting the mall crawler image in my head. Glad it wont be a poser, but it will be a shame to scratch up them pretty wheels.
Building an outside rotisserie for the CJ tub, gonna line the belly over Christmas. I post some pictures when I get it set up.
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4spdfury
enthusiast
Reged: Oct 15 2005
Loc: id usa
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I hope you got steering arms with tre's and not for a heim joint.
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DusterDave
super stock
Reged: Jul 10 2010
Loc: In a Moab state of mind
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I hope you got steering arms with tre's and not for a heim joint.
I didn't get them yet, but the drag link and tie rod will have the "1 ton" TRE's. When I get the frame weighted down, I'll take measurements and give PartsMike a call.
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DusterDave
super stock
Reged: Jul 10 2010
Loc: In a Moab state of mind
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I knew it......gonna be another lugnut polisher project.........j/k
Those are sweet
Rickster
I blame Rickster for planting the mall crawler image in my head. Glad it wont be a poser, but it will be a shame to scratch up them pretty wheels.
Building an outside rotisserie for the CJ tub, gonna line the belly over Christmas. I post some pictures when I get it set up.
Instead of Mall Crawler, I prefer the term "Tactical Urban Assault Vehicle".
The wall o' rubber arrived today.
While looking them over, I discovered something interesting about them. See the middle tires, and how much blacker they are than the outer tires? Each sidewall of the tire is different, in terms of side biter design and font style for "Trail Grappler M/T. The darker sidewall has capitalized, simple font style with flat side biter blocks, while the lighter colored sidewall has a more aggressive, stylized font and ribbed side biter blocks.
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mopar346
Slow Ride Dreamer
Reged: Jul 05 2007
Loc: Florida
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Sweet, black and round just like I like 'em.
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DusterDave
super stock
Reged: Jul 10 2010
Loc: In a Moab state of mind
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Sweet, black and round just like I like 'em.
Yeah, I would have been pissed if they were octagon shaped!
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rickstershemi
Rickster The Trickster!!
Reged: Jul 31 2006
Loc: Lehigh Acres, Florida
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The wall o' rubber arrived today.
While looking them over, I discovered something interesting about them. See the middle tires, and how much blacker they are than the outer tires? Each sidewall of the tire is different, in terms of side biter design and font style for "Trail Grappler M/T. The darker sidewall has capitalized, simple font style with flat side biter blocks, while the lighter colored sidewall has a more aggressive, stylized font and ribbed side biter blocks.
Unless you received some kind of major deal for them being mismatched....I would not be a happy camper 
PS: Love the wheels
Rickster
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mopar346
Slow Ride Dreamer
Reged: Jul 05 2007
Loc: Florida
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I missed that comment, once again I agree with Rickster on this one. If you paid prime dollar they need to match, with what I perceive to be your attention to detail it will bug you everyday and you'll end up changing them in a few months. 
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DusterDave
super stock
Reged: Jul 10 2010
Loc: In a Moab state of mind
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The wall o' rubber arrived today.
While looking them over, I discovered something interesting about them. See the middle tires, and how much blacker they are than the outer tires? Each sidewall of the tire is different, in terms of side biter design and font style for "Trail Grappler M/T. The darker sidewall has capitalized, simple font style with flat side biter blocks, while the lighter colored sidewall has a more aggressive, stylized font and ribbed side biter blocks.
Unless you received some kind of major deal for them being mismatched....I would not be a happy camper
PS: Love the wheels
Rickster
I should have been more clear in my description. Each tire has one sidewall one way, and the other sidewall a different way. All of the tires are the same. It just gives you a choice on which sidewall you want facing out. Personally, I don't care that much what the sidewall looks like, just never seen that on a tire before.
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Current project: '89 Jeep Wrangler frame-off, V8 stroker
Follow my Jeep build: http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=Warlock&Number=6792940&page=0&fpart=1
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mopar346
Slow Ride Dreamer
Reged: Jul 05 2007
Loc: Florida
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Ahhh, like raised white letters on one side and black wall on the other. As far as the color/brighten difference that may clean up or even out with a coating or two of tire dressing or Armor All, but please wipe it all off before you hit the road, it just wouldn't look right on a Jeep.
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DusterDave
super stock
Reged: Jul 10 2010
Loc: In a Moab state of mind
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Ahhh, like raised white letters on one side and black wall on the other. As far as the color/brighten difference that may clean up or even out with a coating or two of tire dressing or Armor All, but please wipe it all off before you hit the road, it just wouldn't look right on a Jeep.
I promise, no tire shine product will ever go on those tires! They are too big and gnarly for that kind of foo-foo treatment!!
I changed my mind on the wheels. I'm going with a slightly different version of the aforementioned XD Addicts.
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mopar346
Slow Ride Dreamer
Reged: Jul 05 2007
Loc: Florida
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Noooooooooooooo........ 20s, your tires didn't look like 20s or os that just a store stock picture?
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DusterDave
super stock
Reged: Jul 10 2010
Loc: In a Moab state of mind
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Noooooooooooooo........ 20s, your tires didn't look like 20s or os that just a store stock picture?
No, its just a wheel pic I snagged off of the internet. The wheels I'm getting are 17x9's.
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Defbob
TaterSalad
Reged: Nov 27 2004
Loc: Norwich CT USA
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Noooooooooooooo........ 20s, your tires didn't look like 20s or os that just a store stock picture?
No, its just a wheel pic I snagged off of the internet. The wheels I'm getting are 17x9's.
Thank Ezekiel !! I thought for a second we lost another Jeep to a mall.
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mopar346
Slow Ride Dreamer
Reged: Jul 05 2007
Loc: Florida
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Noooooooooooooo........ 20s, your tires didn't look like 20s or os that just a store stock picture?
No, its just a wheel pic I snagged off of the internet. The wheels I'm getting are 17x9's.
Whew....I can exhale now. I have begun to except 17s on a big truck tire but still not there for 20s or anything over 15s on a muscle car - no offense to anyone.
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DusterDave
super stock
Reged: Jul 10 2010
Loc: In a Moab state of mind
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Noooooooooooooo........ 20s, your tires didn't look like 20s or os that just a store stock picture?
No, its just a wheel pic I snagged off of the internet. The wheels I'm getting are 17x9's.
Whew....I can exhale now. I have begun to except 17s on a big truck tire but still not there for 20s or anything over 15s on a muscle car - no offense to anyone.
Trust me, I'm not a big wheel guy, and it took a little while for me to realize that 17's on a 37" tire still leaves lots of sidewall.
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Current project: '89 Jeep Wrangler frame-off, V8 stroker
Follow my Jeep build: http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=Warlock&Number=6792940&page=0&fpart=1
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DusterDave
super stock
Reged: Jul 10 2010
Loc: In a Moab state of mind
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The wheels came in. Not crazy about the chrome center caps. No biggie, since I won't be using them on the fronts because of the Warn hubs. I can switch the back ones to matte black center caps.
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mopar346
Slow Ride Dreamer
Reged: Jul 05 2007
Loc: Florida
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Those lug nut don't need polishing. Pretty sweet and you even got the spare, impressive, gonna need a heck of a spare tire holder.
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DusterDave
super stock
Reged: Jul 10 2010
Loc: In a Moab state of mind
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The per wheel price was so good, I got the fifth one to increase the savings even more.
While I'm building the rear bumper, I'm also going to build an A-frame style swing-out tire carrier as well. I'm going to build a stubby front bumper, too. The prices they want for new bumpers is crazy. I can build them for a hell of a lot less.
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rickstershemi
Rickster The Trickster!!
Reged: Jul 31 2006
Loc: Lehigh Acres, Florida
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Love the wheels Dave....gonna be one sweet Jeep
Rickster
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mopar346
Slow Ride Dreamer
Reged: Jul 05 2007
Loc: Florida
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The per wheel price was so good, I got the fifth one to increase the savings even more.
While I'm building the rear bumper, I'm also going to build an A-frame style swing-out tire carrier as well. I'm going to build a stubby front bumper, too. The prices they want for new bumpers is crazy. I can build them for a hell of a lot less.
Now you just sound like a woman, "I bought more cause they were on sale".
The bumpers sound great, cant wait to see them.
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DusterDave
super stock
Reged: Jul 10 2010
Loc: In a Moab state of mind
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Made some progress. When the wheels came in, they had sent the wrong size lug nuts. Instead of 7/16" lug nuts, they sent 9/16". They apologized and quickly sent out the correct size lug nuts, but when I tried a wheel on, the factory studs were too short to get adequate thread engagement. So, I decided to step up to 9/16" wheel studs that were long enough to get plenty of engagement. I bought new front rotors and Dorman 610-228 wheel studs, and sent them and the hubs to a machine shop for installation.
Rubicon Express 1.5" lift SOA springs, boomerang shackles, new u-bolts, and anti-wrap perches arrived. I smoothed up the rear axle, so I now have everything bought and done to create a rolling frame. That will happen next week.
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rickstershemi
Rickster The Trickster!!
Reged: Jul 31 2006
Loc: Lehigh Acres, Florida
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Rickster
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mopar346
Slow Ride Dreamer
Reged: Jul 05 2007
Loc: Florida
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Pretty sweet, moving right along. 
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DusterDave
super stock
Reged: Jul 10 2010
Loc: In a Moab state of mind
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Thanks for the support, guys!
I installed the leaf springs this morning. I'm going to have to stop right there, due to a bunch of last minute things to do related to Christmas.
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Current project: '89 Jeep Wrangler frame-off, V8 stroker
Follow my Jeep build: http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=Warlock&Number=6792940&page=0&fpart=1
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mopar346
Slow Ride Dreamer
Reged: Jul 05 2007
Loc: Florida
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It's 9:00 and you already installed the springs? NO wonder you accomplish more than me, I'm just fixin to go out to the shop. 
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DusterDave
super stock
Reged: Jul 10 2010
Loc: In a Moab state of mind
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It's 9:00 and you already installed the springs? NO wonder you accomplish more than me, I'm just fixin to go out to the shop.
I was extra motivated this morning. If I was like that every day, the Jeep would be done by now.
I'm done with my errands. I'm going back into the garage and wire brush and paint those nasty hubs with a coat of black Hammertone. Can't cruise the mall parking lots with rusty hubs, you know. 
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DusterDave
super stock
Reged: Jul 10 2010
Loc: In a Moab state of mind
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If you use cement blocks under your vehicle because 4 post lifts aren't allowed in your trailer park, you might be a redneck.
If you use cement blocks under your vehicle because you think 4 post lifts are only for rich people, you just might be a redneck.
If you use cement blocks under your vehicle because you could use the insurance money to put the wheels back on your single wide, you might be a redneck.
Thank you, you've been a great audience, good night!
I'd be further along, but I'm waiting for some u-bolts to arrive.
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rickstershemi
Rickster The Trickster!!
Reged: Jul 31 2006
Loc: Lehigh Acres, Florida
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You're too neat to be a redneck.....
Rickster
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mopar346
Slow Ride Dreamer
Reged: Jul 05 2007
Loc: Florida
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HEY..............them my people you're talking bout.
I prefer 8 inch sewer pipe, it allows you to move it around when needed. (picture too large to attach).
Progress looks good.
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