11secaarcuda
super gas
Reged: Oct 16 2003
Loc: WASHINGTON, PA
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So , my wifes uncle was in town and he bought some 4 door piece of crap called a Lancer EVO. He asks if I want to get my AAR out and "race a real car". I just laughed at him. I was a good boy and didn't run him (even though there is a very nice long straight stretch in front of my house). It just cracks me up that he thinks his EVO could "blow my doors off". 
I wanted to ask him when he was going to grow a set and buy a real car, but I refrained.
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ctRT
member
Reged: Apr 22 2005
Loc: SW PA
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Are you going to any Flashlight drags around here?
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11secaarcuda
super gas
Reged: Oct 16 2003
Loc: WASHINGTON, PA
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No, they are all in Ohio now at Steel Valley Dragway (Friendship Park).
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gremlinsteve
pro stock
Reged: Sep 01 2004
Loc: houston texas
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the fastest one i know of is in the 8 second range. the slowest ive seen are in the 14.40 area....
steve
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11secaarcuda
super gas
Reged: Oct 16 2003
Loc: WASHINGTON, PA
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his is stock with a big muffler, so I wasn't worried about it. He must have used the term to me about riding in or racing his "real car" 3 or 4 times in the 1 day that I saw him.
I think 4 doors are for geeks or mommies.just my opinion. I remember that when I was in high school, if you owned a 4 door and thought it was cool, you got laughed at. 
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fourgearsavoy
Power Shifter!!
Reged: Dec 07 2004
Loc: Rittman Ohio
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There are quite a few out there running low 12's with bolt-on parts 
BTW...thats driving to the track getting 30+ MPG with the air on 
Gus 
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fourgearsavoy
Power Shifter!!
Reged: Dec 07 2004
Loc: Rittman Ohio
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his is stock with a big muffler, so I wasn't worried about it. He must have used the term to me about riding in or racing his "real car" 3 or 4 times in the 1 day that I saw him.
I think 4 doors are for geeks or mommies.just my opinion. I remember that when I was in high school, if you owned a 4 door and thought it was cool, you got laughed at.
I would think member Fun4door here would disagree with you.He runs a 4 door 64 Dodge that would probably put a whoopin on your AAR 
Gus
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5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box
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--340srule
gone for good
Reged: Feb 24 2004
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So , my wifes uncle was in town and he bought some 4 door piece of crap called a Lancer EVO. He asks if I want to get my AAR out and "race a real car". I just laughed at him. I was a good boy and didn't run him (even though there is a very nice long straight stretch in front of my house). It just cracks me up that he thinks his EVO could "blow my doors off".
I wanted to ask him when he was going to grow a set and buy a real car, but I refrained.
He's probably going to tell his friends about how scared you were to race him  after all he put the challenge up you declined..
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11secaarcuda
super gas
Reged: Oct 16 2003
Loc: WASHINGTON, PA
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his is stock with a big muffler, so I wasn't worried about it. He must have used the term to me about riding in or racing his "real car" 3 or 4 times in the 1 day that I saw him.
I think 4 doors are for geeks or mommies.just my opinion. I remember that when I was in high school, if you owned a 4 door and thought it was cool, you got laughed at.
I would think member Fun4door here would disagree with you.He runs a 4 door 64 Dodge that would probably put a whoopin on your AAR
Gus
I've seen some cool 4 door cars. I am sure there are quite a few that can beat my Cuda. I know my Cuda is not the fastest car in the world. It runs good for what it is. It was just funny and a little annoying. Maybe I should have just taken him out and whooped him. But then everyone would be complaining about me street racing.
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Sub95
super gas
Reged: Jul 13 2004
Loc: Cali S.B
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last time at the track one ran a mid 11s.
buddy of mine built a STI, full trim, 11.53 @ 127mph with AFs at low 11s, still working on the fuel map, traction 1.75 60', but once worked out should do high 10s.
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Lil Demon
master
Reged: Apr 02 2007
Loc: Rocklin, California
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I think 4 doors are for geeks or mommies.just my opinion. I remember that when I was in high school, if you owned a 4 door and thought it was cool, you got laughed at.
Sean Renteria and his 6 second 4-door Valiant may disagree with you.
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CJK440
master
Reged: Jan 20 2003
Loc: Ansonia, CT
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But then everyone would be complaining about me street racing.
Save it for the track not only for the safety factor but he's got AWD too.
I would also guess like most turbo cars, a little tweak to the boost controller will yeild significant HP increases.
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SWINGIN\'72
moparts member
Reged: Jan 21 2003
Loc: Brookeville, Md
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what's done to you AAR? he might give you more of a race than you think. Those cars and the Subaru WRX's are pretty dang fastw/o mods. w/ a few mods they are easy low-mid 12 second cars.
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Bob_Coomer
super gas
Reged: Nov 12 2003
Loc: Rock Springs
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Yep
Watched a Neon, STR-4 turbo car stone stock, whip up on his buddy's pretty much stock LS1 powered Camaro time pass after pass. The guys couldnt believe it.
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bonefish
master
Reged: Nov 03 2004
Loc: s.w.fl
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next time he says that to you just slap him real hard right in the ear and tell him to shut ta eff up.
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deaks
super stock
Reged: May 16 2004
Loc: Nottingham, England
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My business partner owns an evo, with a few mods including an aftermarket chip, we took it to the strip and the best time he ran was 14.00 at 98mph, then it broke after 8 runs, damaged the crank sensor. Turns out, it had crank walk.
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MikeCompTA 57
member
Reged: Mar 06 2006
Loc: Loveland, Ohio
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How bout 11.80's @ 117mph
4200 wt. (with 4 doors)
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I think 4 doors are for geeks or mommies.just my opinion. I remember that when I was in high school, if you owned a 4 door and thought it was cool, you got laughed at.
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11.85 @ 117 mph 1.74 60ft
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10.89 @ 128 mph 1.47 60ft
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rickstershemi
master
Reged: Jul 31 2006
Loc: Lehigh Acres, Florida
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You may or may not have saved yourself some embarrassment...there are some pretty quick cars out there today...the muscle car era was awesome, but not really that quick by today's standards 
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Garceau
pro stock
Reged: Nov 04 2005
Loc: Wisconsin
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Issue is on the street the AWD would have really saved his butt. If you run 11s Im sure you would whup him on the strip with traction.
Was he talking about racing in a straight line? Because them cars and the WRX were never made to drag race.
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jcc
No One Knows Why I'm Here
Reged: Dec 21 2003
Loc: Here
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Issue is on the street the AWD would have really saved his butt. If you run 11s Im sure you would whup him on the strip with traction.
Was he talking about racing in a straight line? Because them cars and the WRX were never made to drag race.
Wonder if this thread would ever been started if they actually raced? 
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Garceau
pro stock
Reged: Nov 04 2005
Loc: Wisconsin
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I test drove the AWD infinity this weekend with 330 hp and very aggressive shift points.
The thing was an absolute rocket from a stop light. I mean it was just flat out GONE.
I couldnt believe it - almost bought it on the spot, then decided to wait until spring to go car shopping.
Up here in Wisconsin, its foolish to get a toy that I have to make payments on and cant drive it every day. If I lived in the south I definatly would have something different for a daily driver.
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Runner
master
Reged: Aug 16 2003
Loc: Idaho
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next time he says that to you just slap him real hard right in the ear and tell him to shut ta eff up.
most of the time you cant beat this type of guy bad enough.
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69 superbee clone 440/727 daughters car
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72DEMON416
mopar addict
Reged: Jun 04 2004
Loc: North Battleford, Saskatchewan...
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If your AAR can run a 11 with any kind of mph it would'nt have been much of a race. If his car is truely stock, all wheel drive or not his azz would be dusted in a hurry.
I'm not a big advocate of street racing but there comes a time to put your money where your mouth is and it sounds like he needs a reality check.
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cudaben1968
enthusiast
Reged: May 07 2006
Loc: wine valley
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i drive a little integra as my daily driver. full interior, 2900lb wt (at local scale) as far as anyone can tell all it has is a big funny muffler too and a short ram air intake. but what u dont see is all the head mods the porting epoxying of the runners (mondello grad did it)inatek is the same, adj cam gears.... with big heavy slow 17" rims, full interior half tank of gas 91 oct. i click off 13.40's all day at about 102mph... never lost to a mustang or camaro or bmw or mercedes or wrx or evo... u never know with todays car... its a n/a motor no nitrous, turbo or any kind of power adder. and once i swap the engine into my 93 civic hatchback (gutted, approx 1800lb) im expecting mid to low 12's with 35mpg and drive it every friking day!!! would u expect that from a flat black civc????? b careful u might just get embarrassed 
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goldmember
super street
Reged: Feb 16 2004
Loc: Gainesville,FL
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i drive a little integra as my daily driver. full interior, 2900lb wt (at local scale) as far as anyone can tell all it has is a big funny muffler too and a short ram air intake. but what u dont see is all the head mods the porting epoxying of the runners (mondello grad did it)inatek is the same, adj cam gears.... with big heavy slow 17" rims, full interior half tank of gas 91 oct. i click off 13.40's all day at about 102mph... never lost to a mustang or camaro or bmw or mercedes or wrx or evo... u never know with todays car... its a n/a motor no nitrous, turbo or any kind of power adder. and once i swap the engine into my 93 civic hatchback (gutted, approx 1800lb) im expecting mid to low 12's with 35mpg and drive it every friking day!!! would u expect that from a flat black civc????? b careful u might just get embarrassed
Gee thats a fast car you got,like to race? Bring some $$$$ cause I wouldn't waste time killing ya for free.
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72DEMON416
mopar addict
Reged: Jun 04 2004
Loc: North Battleford, Saskatchewan...
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Running 11's in a reasonably stock looking musclecar is carrying a big enough stick to beat off most of the crap out there. It's not like every 2'nd vehicle out there can run that number/mph. Whether it's a flat black civic with a fart can or a hemi cuda- if the guy's mouth is running off that bad I'll take my chances running him. As far as embarassment goes- it's racing- somebodys got to lose- so let put him put up or shut up.
As they say...When the green light pops- the Bullshat stops.
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cudaben1968
enthusiast
Reged: May 07 2006
Loc: wine valley
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i hear you, but like it has been said, technology is amazing, 13's with a 1.8 ltr 30+ mpg to me is killer. dont discount them, they r the new muscle like it or not.
goldmember.... wow just cuz i have a car that is my daily driver, everyday i drive it!!! 230k on the odometer... ya ill bring a spoon to a gun fight. [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean]? why dont u get in ur jalopy drive it out hereto california we can meet up at infineon and ill bring my b'cuda. or will ur car not make the drive???? lol 
its a daily driver and all im saying is they r quick. no it aint guna beat a 9 sec. whatever but it passes smog, and is using all internally stock parts. lets see a f.a.s.t car do that.... o wait they dont. they r stroked and extrude honed and huge cams and any other trick u can do. if ur talking full on race car why would u even want to race a honda? is "it" that small u gotta try to prove sumthin to ur self?
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rebel
top fuel
Reged: Dec 25 2006
Loc: aotearoa
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during the summer our track runs friday night dragwars to keep the boyracers off the street. at the start of the season it's not uncommon to see 4 evo's running high 9's & then drive home! we have plenty of 10 sec evo's & skylines but WRX's aren't reliable enough for our kids.
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DakFink
member
Reged: Dec 18 2006
Loc: Texas Afghanistan Iraq etc.
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So , my wifes uncle was in town and he bought some 4 door piece of crap called a Lancer EVO. He asks if I want to get my AAR out and "race a real car". I just laughed at him. I was a good boy and didn't run him (even though there is a very nice long straight stretch in front of my house). It just cracks me up that he thinks his EVO could "blow my doors off".
I wanted to ask him when he was going to grow a set and buy a real car, but I refrained.
Careful there that AWD Evo will whoop up on you on the street.
You want to really get his GOAT the next time he starts mouthing. Tell him his EVO is 1/3 Mopar.
Heres how: In the late 80's a company was created call Diamons Star Motors. It was staffed by Mitsubishi, Mopar and Hyundai engineers. With the understanding that all Corporates had equal rights to what ever technology came out of the venture. DSM=Diamond Star Motors brought us the 4G63 engine in cars such as the Plymouth Laser, Mitsubishi Eclipse, Eagle Talon(a chrysler company)and some Hyundai car?? Later it was also used in the Mitsu Galant VR-4 which eventually evolved into the EVO.(hence the name EVOlution) To this day the EVO still carries the 4G63 engine in a reverse configuration.
NOW YOU KNOW THE REST OF THE STORY!!
GOOD DAY!!
I have a 1991 Plymouth Laser myself.
I have personally helped a guy get his Eclipse from 14.0's to 11.30's for less than $4500 with bolt ons.
Of all the imports out there. EVOs, Eclipse, Laser, Talon, and Supras are ones I don't even take my chances with.
Edited by DakFink (Tue Sep 15 2009 11:32 AM)
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fun4door
member
Reged: Sep 21 2006
Loc: ohio
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I think 4 doors are for geeks or mommies.just my opinion. I remember that when I was in high school, if you owned a 4 door and thought it was cool, you got laughed at.
I would be happy to run you in my mommy 4 door if you would like?  I have a buddy that has one of these evos that is is daily driver with a bunch of bolt ons. When he turns the boost up at the truck it runs 10 teens all day long.
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HemiDart68
Entertaining!!
Reged: Jan 15 2004
Loc: North of Detroit
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I have a buddy with a fast EVO, 10 second car. He is deadly on the street racing. The AWD hooks the car up. The big power cars are usually spinning the tires while he drives around them. A stock one isnt much to worry about, but some of those EVO's can be deadly on the street.
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wkroncke17
mopar
Reged: Oct 30 2007
Loc: Wisconsin
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I think 4 doors are for geeks or mommies.just my opinion. I remember that when I was in high school, if you owned a 4 door and thought it was cool, you got laughed at.
I would be happy to run you in my mommy 4 door if you would like? I have a buddy that has one of these evos that is is daily driver with a bunch of bolt ons. When he turns the boost up at the truck it runs 10 teens all day long.
Yaa yaaa....  ....I have a buddy....yadda yadda yadda....We all have "buddys" that have a car that can beat your car....
We all know what kind of potential some cars have, its the people that drive them that dont understand.
Don't some people understand the original point of this post??
I do...and I know people like that....they're clueless.
Just like some of the people that reply to these posts.
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11secaarcuda
super gas
Reged: Oct 16 2003
Loc: WASHINGTON, PA
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Wonder if this thread would ever been started if they actually raced?
I think it would have gone something like this...
AAR pulled out on the road and heated up its Quik Time Pros. Evo does a small dry hop. Evo is revving his car to get the boost up. AAR comes up on the converter to about 2800 rpm. Evo is revved up to about 3500 rpm. Starter drops his arms, AAR launches hard with just a wee bit of air under the front tire. Evo hooks good, too, but not as hard. AAR pulls 2 cars right out of the hole. Evo tries to catch up, shifting at 7000 rpms. AAR hits his shift points at 7000 rpms also. AAR is pulling away on the top end. Evo gives up and lets off the gas.
We go back to my house, and I ask, now do you want me to crack open the blue bottle and we go again?
Evo driver goes back to Iowa where he lives and starts searching the classifieds for a Cuda to buy.
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--340srule
gone for good
Reged: Feb 24 2004
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Wonder if this thread would ever been started if they actually raced?
I think it would have gone something like this...
AAR pulled out on the road and heated up its Quik Time Pros. Evo does a small dry hop. Evo is revving his car to get the boost up. AAR comes up on the converter to about 2800 rpm. Evo is revved up to about 3500 rpm. Starter drops his arms, AAR launches hard with just a wee bit of air under the front tire. Evo hooks good, too, but not as hard. AAR pulls 2 cars right out of the hole. Evo tries to catch up, shifting at 7000 rpms. AAR hits his shift points at 7000 rpms also. AAR is pulling away on the top end. Evo gives up and lets off the gas.
We go back to my house, and I ask, now do you want me to crack open the blue bottle and we go again?
Evo driver goes back to Iowa where he lives and starts searching the classifieds for a Cuda to buy.
Ya' but we'll never know YOU turned down the challenge..not the guy in the "rice burner"
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69B3GT
Eh, I'm bored and want to see how long of a title I can give someone before it cuts me off! apparent
Reged: Oct 04 2008
Loc: Riverside CA. SoCal
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i hear you, but like it has been said, technology is amazing, 13's with a 1.8 ltr 30+ mpg to me is killer. dont discount them, they r the new muscle like it or not.
goldmember.... wow just cuz i have a car that is my daily driver, everyday i drive it!!! 230k on the odometer... ya ill bring a spoon to a gun fight. [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean]? why dont u get in ur jalopy drive it out hereto california we can meet up at infineon and ill bring my b'cuda. or will ur car not make the drive???? lol
its a daily driver and all im saying is they r quick. no it aint guna beat a 9 sec. whatever but it passes smog, and is using all internally stock parts. lets see a f.a.s.t car do that.... o wait they dont. they r stroked and extrude honed and huge cams and any other trick u can do. if ur talking full on race car why would u even want to race a honda? is "it" that small u gotta try to prove sumthin to ur self?
Man this one has been bugging me all day so i thought id throw in my You do realize you challenged him to a race and tell him to drive his car from florida and youll drive your car what an hour to the track? Sure your honda may run good for what it is but why challenge a guy across the country then talk trash saying his car wont make the drive, i dont see your car driving across the country. And if you want to hit up people for races let me direct you this way racefwd.com Im sure youll find something in your area, if not i know plenty of people itching to run your honda. Well have fun with your economy car.  
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goldmember
super street
Reged: Feb 16 2004
Loc: Gainesville,FL
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i hear you, but like it has been said, technology is amazing, 13's with a 1.8 ltr 30+ mpg to me is killer. dont discount them, they r the new muscle like it or not.
goldmember.... wow just cuz i have a car that is my daily driver, everyday i drive it!!! 230k on the odometer... ya ill bring a spoon to a gun fight. [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean]? why dont u get in ur jalopy drive it out hereto california we can meet up at infineon and ill bring my b'cuda. or will ur car not make the drive???? lol
its a daily driver and all im saying is they r quick. no it aint guna beat a 9 sec. whatever but it passes smog, and is using all internally stock parts. lets see a f.a.s.t car do that.... o wait they dont. they r stroked and extrude honed and huge cams and any other trick u can do. if ur talking full on race car why would u even want to race a honda? is "it" that small u gotta try to prove sumthin to ur self?
Man this one has been bugging me all day so i thought id throw in my You do realize you challenged him to a race and tell him to drive his car from florida and youll drive your car what an hour to the track? Sure your honda may run good for what it is but why challenge a guy across the country then talk trash saying his car wont make the drive, i dont see your car driving across the country. And if you want to hit up people for races let me direct you this way racefwd.com Im sure youll find something in your area, if not i know plenty of people itching to run your honda. Well have fun with your economy car.
Sorry to the original poster for helping this train get off the tracks. JMO but when someone lays down a challenge,like the one you were given,I'd jump on it,but on the track in front of everyone and his brother. I don't street race and haven't in 15 years,no reason to put others at risk. As far as the proud Honda fellow,I would not get on the internet bragging about your slow ride and how it is a terror,it's not. So you beat a girl in a mustang on her cell phone or whatever,your racey Honda isn't a threat to beat anything that I consider fast.Just a different veiw of whats fast vs. whats not so fast. I guess go to the track and knockoff a z06 corvette and a couple of 1000cc sportbikes and I might think its pretty neat. Sorry,I don't get your amazment at the numbers,I had a number of 2.2l dodge turbo cars(daily drivers) over the years that were much faster and still got 30mpg. Yep,my car would make the drive although the longest road trip it's been on is only 700miles,it's still a street car,just not my daily driver. Sorry I don't mean any offence to you,just can't feel the terror of a 13 second car.
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Coke_Bottle_Kid
The Haze
Reged: Jan 19 2003
Loc: San Marcos, CA
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So , my wifes uncle was in town and he bought some 4 door piece of crap called a Lancer EVO. He asks if I want to get my AAR out and "race a real car". I just laughed at him. I was a good boy and didn't run him (even though there is a very nice long straight stretch in front of my house). It just cracks me up that he thinks his EVO could "blow my doors off".
I wanted to ask him when he was going to grow a set and buy a real car, but I refrained.
Careful there that AWD Evo will whoop up on you on the street.
You want to really get his GOAT the next time he starts mouthing. Tell him his EVO is 1/3 Mopar.
Heres how: In the late 80's a company was created call Diamons Star Motors. It was staffed by Mitsubishi, Mopar and Hyundai engineers. With the understanding that all Corporates had equal rights to what ever technology came out of the venture. DSM=Diamond Star Motors brought us the 4G63 engine in cars such as the Plymouth Laser, Mitsubishi Eclipse, Eagle Talon(a chrysler company)and some Hyundai car?? Later it was also used in the Mitsu Galant VR-4 which eventually evolved into the EVO.(hence the name EVOlution) To this day the EVO still carries the 4G63 engine in a reverse configuration.
NOW YOU KNOW THE REST OF THE STORY!!
GOOD DAY!!
I have a 1991 Plymouth Laser myself.
I have personally helped a guy get his Eclipse from 14.0's to 11.30's for less than $4500 with bolt ons.
Of all the imports out there. EVOs, Eclipse, Laser, Talon, and Supras are ones I don't even take my chances with.
VR-4s came BEFORE the eclipse/laser/talon trio. I too own an AWD talon... cheapest speed out there right now IMO (bought mine for $900).
To the poster, well I hope you turn at least mid 13's without the nitrous, otherwise you're in trouble. If it's a newer EVO they'll turn mid to low 13s stock...
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W5Duster364
super gas
Reged: Jan 20 2003
Loc: Kentucky
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i hear you, but like it has been said, technology is amazing, 13's with a 1.8 ltr 30+ mpg to me is killer. dont discount them, they r the new muscle like it or not.
goldmember.... wow just cuz i have a car that is my daily driver, everyday i drive it!!! 230k on the odometer... ya ill bring a spoon to a gun fight. [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean]? why dont u get in ur jalopy drive it out hereto california we can meet up at infineon and ill bring my b'cuda. or will ur car not make the drive???? lol
its a daily driver and all im saying is they r quick. no it aint guna beat a 9 sec. whatever but it passes smog, and is using all internally stock parts. lets see a f.a.s.t car do that.... o wait they dont. they r stroked and extrude honed and huge cams and any other trick u can do. if ur talking full on race car why would u even want to race a honda? is "it" that small u gotta try to prove sumthin to ur self?
y don't u tri to ryte a co gent sentents. Unbelievable.
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1badx
member
Reged: Sep 23 2006
Loc: Portersville, Pa
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So , my wifes uncle was in town and he bought some 4 door piece of crap called a Lancer EVO. He asks if I want to get my AAR out and "race a real car". I just laughed at him. I was a good boy and didn't run him (even though there is a very nice long straight stretch in front of my house). It just cracks me up that he thinks his EVO could "blow my doors off".
I wanted to ask him when he was going to grow a set and buy a real car, but I refrained.
I would be very careful about running that Evo on the street. Even if your car runs 11's at the track, the street is a whole different animal. As was stated above an AWD Evo with only minor mods could humble you real quick.
As for the Flashlight Drags, try the Beaver Run events. I believe the next one is 10/3. Maybe you can race my sons $2500 Honda. I'm still a big block Mopar guy and hope to have my Plymouth there but will be very careful about laughing at any import. The last Beaver Run Flashlight Drags was the first time a "Top Import" beat a "Top Domestic". It was a stock looking Eclipse against an old MG with a big block Chevy. The MG/BBC beat every domestic car there that day, and it was real quick! The Eclipse trounced the BBC, aired up his tires and drove over an hour home.
I used to always say "there's no replacement for displacement". Times have definitely changed......
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383man
Cake-less on his Birthday
Reged: Jan 19 2003
Loc: Balt. Md
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Dont know how fast your nice Cuda is but if your not running at least in the 11's then watch out for him. Like was said with a few mods they will blast low 12's. Nothing I like more then seeing our 30 plus year old Mopars spanking a new ricer. But you have to respect how well they can run. Ron
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GTX MATT
Waiting...Still Waiting..
Reged: Jun 05 2006
Loc: CT
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i hear you, but like it has been said, technology is amazing, 13's with a 1.8 ltr 30+ mpg to me is killer. dont discount them, they r the new muscle like it or not.
goldmember.... wow just cuz i have a car that is my daily driver, everyday i drive it!!! 230k on the odometer... ya ill bring a spoon to a gun fight. [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean]? why dont u get in ur jalopy drive it out hereto california we can meet up at infineon and ill bring my b'cuda. or will ur car not make the drive???? lol
its a daily driver and all im saying is they r quick. no it aint guna beat a 9 sec. whatever but it passes smog, and is using all internally stock parts. lets see a f.a.s.t car do that.... o wait they dont. they r stroked and extrude honed and huge cams and any other trick u can do. if ur talking full on race car why would u even want to race a honda? is "it" that small u gotta try to prove sumthin to ur self?
Ever hear of Pure Stock Drags? Mr Six Pack has an A12 car running 12.30s and a Hemi 'Cuda running 11.80s. Lets see one of your cars do that and spec out to stock blueprint specs. Pure stock cars dont have ported heads with a bunch of epoxy in them to completely change the port shape either.
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Reged: Dec 18 2005
Loc: Toronto, Ontario
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If you run 11's and he was just stock with exhaust, you would have smoked him..BUT..there are many fast DSM's and EVO's out there..
7.70's in the 1/4
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Reged: Jan 06 2005
Loc: Las Vegas NV
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If you run 11's and he was just stock with exhaust, you would have smoked him..BUT..there are many fast DSM's and EVO's out there..
7.70's in the 1/4
9's on race gas and low 10's on pump gas
I always wanted to build on of those Eagle Talon AWD cars.
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Reged: May 11 2003
Loc: Cleveland Ohio
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If you run 11's and he was just stock with exhaust, you would have smoked him..BUT..there are many fast DSM's and EVO's out there..
7.70's in the 1/4
9's on race gas and low 10's on pump gas
I always wanted to build on of those Eagle Talon AWD cars.
I remember when the Talon was going 9's he would drive it to Norwalk that thing would squat so hard on launch....you had to see it ...that car is bad ass
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Reged: Oct 29 2006
Loc: Colorado Rockies
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Well id be finding a track as it looks like you got punked by a tuner car and his owner until until somthing different comes up to show it.
Not saying he would win but the reality is some run good, good enough to win.
he bought some 4 door piece of crap called a Lancer EVO...right there shows the bubble you live in, as mentioned the old iron runs good and strong, however check out a tuner race and see how many of those cars turning the good numbers are driven to the track....
A simple common low mod Evo....mid 11-s.
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mitsubishi-Lancer-EVO-Timeslip-8454.html
This would be a good match for ya...fart can EVO vs EGO?
http://www.dragtimes.com/2006-Mitsubishi-Lancer-EVO-Videos-8454.html
8.50-s EVO....four doors....when the last time I seen an AAR in the 8.50 area..oh I havent, oops.
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So , my wifes uncle was in town and he bought some 4 door piece of crap called a Lancer EVO. He asks if I want to get my AAR out and "race a real car". I just laughed at him. I was a good boy and didn't run him (even though there is a very nice long straight stretch in front of my house). It just cracks me up that he thinks his EVO could "blow my doors off".
I wanted to ask him when he was going to grow a set and buy a real car, but I refrained.
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gone for good
Reged: Feb 24 2004
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Ever hear of Pure Stock Drags? Mr Six Pack has an A12 car running 12.30s and a Hemi 'Cuda running 11.80s.
Stock running those numbers??...i doubt it..
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GTX MATT
Waiting...Still Waiting..
Reged: Jun 05 2006
Loc: CT
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http://www.purestockdrags.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=52&Itemid=65
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Defbob
TaterSalad
Reged: Nov 27 2004
Loc: Norwich CT USA
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his is stock with a big muffler, so I wasn't worried about it. He must have used the term to me about riding in or racing his "real car" 3 or 4 times in the 1 day that I saw him.
I think 4 doors are for geeks or mommies.just my opinion. I remember that when I was in high school, if you owned a 4 door and thought it was cool, you got laughed at.
I don't know, a 4dr dart with a hemi would be nothing to laugh at
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Power Shifter!!
Reged: Dec 07 2004
Loc: Rittman Ohio
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Ever hear of Pure Stock Drags? Mr Six Pack has an A12 car running 12.30s and a Hemi 'Cuda running 11.80s.
Stock running those numbers??...i doubt it..
 I have to agree(scary isn't it)
Those two cars have to be the 10% of early Mopar muscle that have been tuned to the razor edge.
You have to agree that most of these cars wont run a 13.50 when you see them at the track.Hell I have watched owners of resto cars that wont even hit a 15.0 when they "see what it will do" on the track.
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Garceau
pro stock
Reged: Nov 04 2005
Loc: Wisconsin
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Whats scarey about some of the small motors import/or domestic. Is the amount of HP they can gain and you wouldnt know it. He says its stock, but who knows. Besides a fart can would anyone be able to look under the hood and see a big difference from stock appearing?
these guys can get a bigger HP gain with a few strokes on a lap top than we can with all the wrenches in the world.
I guess Im not close minded. If a car is fast I will give them props regardless of the brand, the make the number of cylinders or what ever they needed. I may not personally like it, but Im too much of an adult to act like a kid and call it names just because its different than what I drive. I guess I was raised differently. Maybe Im not "TRUE MOPAR" your right then. I drive what I want, when I want. Mopar doesnt pay me anything to speak for them. Their products can speak for themselves in most cases. I have owned and raced many other brands. I come back to mopar because thats what I enjoyed in my younger years.
Im sorry a little ricer burner with about 3k worth of add-ons can eat up a Hemi Cuda all day long. But I didnt make the rules.  - there that will get ya all going again.
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Doc Bug
Reged: Jan 20 2003
Loc: Spokane Washington
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If your car really runs solid 11's (in street trim) and he drives his EVO every day (rather than a dedicated race car) odds are that he could be running mid to low 12's with common street friendly bolt ons so they are no joke and hook like crazy with all wheel drive, so be careful that you hook and get off the line at least close to him and you should be ok. So, go beat him and make us proud!
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Reged: Sep 21 2006
Loc: ohio
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Ever hear of Pure Stock Drags? Mr Six Pack has an A12 car running 12.30s and a Hemi 'Cuda running 11.80s. Lets see one of your cars do that and spec out to stock blueprint specs. Pure stock cars dont have ported heads with a bunch of epoxy in them to completely change the port shape either.
As dumb as this may sound, There is not much stock about a pure stock car.
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Waiting...Still Waiting..
Reged: Jun 05 2006
Loc: CT
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The cars are quick, theres no doubt about it. You can call me closed minded all you want but I have a buddy with a 300ZX Twin Turbo, and another with a Mitsubishi Mirage with a 4G63 out of an Eclipse GST running upwards of 20 pounds of boost. I drove it, it was fast (had nothing under 4000 rpm though), but im not into it. There is still no replacement for displacement. At the end of the day if you want to match the boost of any smaller engine running boost, you will make more power.
As far as the EVOs and STis go, they are very over rated due to the 0-60 times and ETs that they run because of their AWD. If you race one from a stop then that matters, but in my area most racing is done from a roll. My friends ZX TT has absolutely waxed every STi thats ever challenged it from a roll and its pretty stock. He only raced one EVO and by 90 he had put enough distance between them that the EVO gave up.
Also, have you ever calculated the first gear ratio in one of those things? They arent surprisingly quick because they are so much lighter than our cars (theyre not) or because there is some black magic to the engines. They are geared extremely quick. First overall is over 13:1 and even second is like 9:1. With that kind of gearing it better move.
I know my competition, and I know how much money these guys dump in their cars. One guy I know of is 60000 into his car to put down almost 500 at the wheels. Even a used high mileage EVO costs 15 K + and thats a good deal. At the point at which I'm 15000 into my car it will be in the 11s with a FRESH engine, not a 100000 mile engine that some kid has beaten the crap out of before me which has had two atomospheres of pressure inside the combustion chamber everytime the pedal was mashed.
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super gas
Reged: Jan 20 2003
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I've had enough , some of you guys need to spend more time on ricerracer.com.
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Garceau
pro stock
Reged: Nov 04 2005
Loc: Wisconsin
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I've had enough , some of you guys need to spend more time on ricerracer.com.
Oh so nice of you to determine other peoples likes and interest and where they spend their time. Im sure the moderators would just love to lose hits and discussions to another board.
Thank you very much for looking out for my best interest because YOU HAVE HAD ENOUGH.
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cudadoug
super street
Reged: Aug 22 2003
Loc: CA
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Wonder if this thread would ever been started if they actually raced?
I think it would have gone something like this...
AAR pulled out on the road and heated up its Quik Time Pros. Evo does a small dry hop. Evo is revving his car to get the boost up. AAR comes up on the converter to about 2800 rpm. Evo is revved up to about 3500 rpm. Starter drops his arms, AAR launches hard with just a wee bit of air under the front tire. Evo hooks good, too, but not as hard. AAR pulls 2 cars right out of the hole. Evo tries to catch up, shifting at 7000 rpms. AAR hits his shift points at 7000 rpms also. AAR is pulling away on the top end. Evo gives up and lets off the gas.
We go back to my house, and I ask, now do you want me to crack open the blue bottle and we go again?
Evo driver goes back to Iowa where he lives and starts searching the classifieds for a Cuda to buy.
That's what you would HOPE would happen. Guess if it was such a sure thing, you would have RUN HIM. Hmmmm Now see, YOU'RE the one running your mouth...
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maximum entropy
Begging Gets You Nowhere
Reged: Feb 08 2007
Loc: bend, over?
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i was at our local track last year with my ten second street car, in the burnout box waiting for the signal to do my burnout. staged in front of me was an eagle talon awd visiting from another area. slicks on all four corners. i thought nothing of it. i will never forget what that thing did on launch- it's prolly a seven second quarter mile car ( ours is an eighth mile track). i looked up, and IT WAS GONE! and it used every inch of the track. i will race anyone, any time (at the track), but that guy would have killed me. so i end up drawing him in the first round of eliminations. i leave first (obviously) and wait for him to catch me. he broke on the starting line (transmission). i went a few rounds that day and drove home. no biggie. but i will never forget what that car looked like from behind going down the track. i think it ran a mid five? at a high altitude track?
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HPMike
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Reged: May 11 2005
Loc: NJ-USA
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i leave first (obviously) and wait for him to catch me. he broke on the starting line (transmission).
Unfortunately, more often than not, that is what happens.
Just come on down to Etown on a typical Wed. night. Just bring your hardhat so you don't wind up in the hospital from all of the junk flying off these things.
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383man
Cake-less on his Birthday
Reged: Jan 19 2003
Loc: Balt. Md
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When talking stock restored muscle cars running 15's it makes you realize how important the tune is on the old muscle cars with points and timing adjustments. And all the carb settings. My point is you can take 2 of the same muscle cars and run 14.95 in one and 13.50 in the other because the points are worn and the timing way retarded. But the modern cars are basically all electronicly tuned. As 2 of them might run 13.60 and 13.50 with the driver being the difference. So it is real important to have the tune right on our old muscle to get the most out of it.
As for the race its a crapshoot depending on what is done to each car. And the turbo ricer will respond alot to simple mods changing the boost. I really dont like the ricer Jap cars myself but I do respect that they can run good. Now if you take away the power adder you will definetly kill him ! Ron
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Reged: May 11 2005
Loc: NJ-USA
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When talking stock restored muscle cars running 15's it makes you realize how important the tune is on the old muscle cars with points and timing adjustments. And all the carb settings. My point is you can take 2 of the same muscle cars and run 14.95 in one and 13.50 in the other because the points are worn and the timing way retarded. But the modern cars are basically all electronicly tuned. As 2 of them might run 13.60 and 13.50 with the driver being the difference. So it is real important to have the tune right on our old muscle to get the most out of it.
As for the race its a crapshoot depending on what is done to each car. And the turbo ricer will respond alot to simple mods changing the boost. I really dont like the ricer Jap cars myself but I do respect that they can run good. Now if you take away the power adder you will definetly kill him ! Ron
Ron;
That is a great point, and I agree. It won't take too much effort to turn a zero into a hero if the tuneup is off on an older car.
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landon1
mopar
Reged: Jun 10 2008
Loc: Ankeny, IA
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let me chime in from the younger generation (i'm 22)- sure, i may be an oddball in my generation, but i dislike the rice cars mainly because every teenage boy that has a civic thinks they have a 10 second car - it's just ridiculous. i've worked with a couple guys who (admittedly) drove stock hondas and thought they'd run sub 10 second quarters.
i was actually looking at an evo a few years ago in addition to an srt-4 as a DD - didn't get either. i've had one jap, actually korean, car and it was a 1.5L 5 speed (not much of a car lol), and it was pretty quick off the line, but at about 40, it was done.
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maximum entropy
Begging Gets You Nowhere
Reged: Feb 08 2007
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let me chime in from the younger generation (i'm 22)- sure, i may be an oddball in my generation, but i dislike the rice cars mainly because every teenage boy that has a civic thinks they have a 10 second car - it's just ridiculous. i've worked with a couple guys who (admittedly) drove stock hondas and thought they'd run sub 10 second quarters.
i was actually looking at an evo a few years ago in addition to an srt-4 as a DD - didn't get either. i've had one jap, actually korean, car and it was a 1.5L 5 speed (not much of a car lol), and it was pretty quick off the line, but at about 40, it was done.
it's always been like that- when i was younger i heard about a "nine second pinto" in town, and i got all excited. i wanted the guy- bad. well, i finally track the guy down, and it's got a 2.3 in it. i was very disappointed. everybody runs nines, and everybody always will. the times have changed, but the stories remain.
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landon1
mopar
Reged: Jun 10 2008
Loc: Ankeny, IA
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i think i read on here - maybe somewhere else a guy supposedly running 10s went to the track and ran a 12 something and didn't understand. when someone asked him why he was confused, he said the car must not be running right cuz he beats 11 second cars on the street all the time 
idk i can't talk - never taken my car to the track, though i want to someday, but with my mild 440/727 and highway gears it's surprisingly quick - i'd like to get a 3.73 or so and see what happens. 
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KIDINTHEYARD
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Reged: Nov 17 2006
Loc: MORENO VALLEY,SO CAL
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yea i use to have a 1st gen eclipse that thing was so fun and cheap to mod ran 13s with very little bolt ons but there trannys suck i blew mine up and got stuck in 3rd gear and i wasnt close to home it was a bad day to be my clutch
i have some friends that have some 10sec daily driven evos also on of then is a big time sleeper
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DakFink
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Reged: Dec 18 2006
Loc: Texas Afghanistan Iraq etc.
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Funny you threw a Duster pic in the convsrsation. That was one of the Original Sport Compacts.
I had a Feather Duster, the guy I bought it from told me the story of the Duster-Falcon-Nova Sport Compact Race series.
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DaytonaTurbo
punctuation & grammar checker
Reged: Feb 26 2003
Loc: Manitoba, Canada
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What 1/4 mile time does your AAR cuda run? Just curious because it's harder to put down that kind of power on the street on crappy asphalt with a torqey rwd than a awd car that's softer on the bottom end. You could easily spin hard on the launch and he could have hooked hard and put a length on you right at launch. Once you hooked I'm sure you'd have reeled him in but in his mind he'd have already won. That and I'm sure you're not gonna be lifting any tires on the street. Surface streets are just not that great for traction: dust, dirt, asphalt hurt a rwd more than a awd. But then even if you did a horrid launch there's every possibility the guy can't drive his own car for crap and you'd smoke him anyway.
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DakFink
member
Reged: Dec 18 2006
Loc: Texas Afghanistan Iraq etc.
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The cars are quick, theres no doubt about it. You can call me closed minded all you want but I have a buddy with a 300ZX Twin Turbo, and another with a Mitsubishi Mirage with a 4G63 out of an Eclipse GST running upwards of 20 pounds of boost. I drove it, it was fast (had nothing under 4000 rpm though), but im not into it. There is still no replacement for displacement. At the end of the day if you want to match the boost of any smaller engine running boost, you will make more power.
As far as the EVOs and STis go, they are very over rated due to the 0-60 times and ETs that they run because of their AWD. If you race one from a stop then that matters, but in my area most racing is done from a roll. My friends ZX TT has absolutely waxed every STi thats ever challenged it from a roll and its pretty stock. He only raced one EVO and by 90 he had put enough distance between them that the EVO gave up.
Also, have you ever calculated the first gear ratio in one of those things? They arent surprisingly quick because they are so much lighter than our cars (theyre not) or because there is some black magic to the engines. They are geared extremely quick. First overall is over 13:1 and even second is like 9:1. With that kind of gearing it better move.
I know my competition, and I know how much money these guys dump in their cars. One guy I know of is 60000 into his car to put down almost 500 at the wheels. Even a used high mileage EVO costs 15 K + and thats a good deal. At the point at which I'm 15000 into my car it will be in the 11s with a FRESH engine, not a 100000 mile engine that some kid has beaten the crap out of before me which has had two atomospheres of pressure inside the combustion chamber everytime the pedal was mashed.
I just read a forum post by David Buschur (the builder of the Talon and EVO that pics were posted in this Thread)
He said he is so heart broken over the Money Spent and the Mis-Mathced combos that come in his door every day. If people knew what they were doing or consult someone that does it would save them alot of money and get a better product in the end.
If that guy spent $60k on a car and only making 500hp. He is doing something very wrong.
Last time I checked, they wouldn't let you do a rolling start at the track. That rolling start crap on the street is BS, Been there done that. Its just giving the guy that hasn't invested in his suspension/traction or a mis-matched combo 1/2 a chance.
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On Tour!!
Reged: Jul 11 2004
Loc: Strange Weather, IA
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let me chime in from the younger generation (i'm 22)- sure, i may be an oddball in my generation, but i dislike the rice cars mainly because every teenage boy that has a civic thinks they have a 10 second car - it's just ridiculous. i've worked with a couple guys who (admittedly) drove stock hondas and thought they'd run sub 10 second quarters.
i was actually looking at an evo a few years ago in addition to an srt-4 as a DD - didn't get either. i've had one jap, actually korean, car and it was a 1.5L 5 speed (not much of a car lol), and it was pretty quick off the line, but at about 40, it was done.
tell them theres a guy in Des moines with a "high 11's" dart  that will race them for $1000 a pop ... Ill even bring it up there -
we used to street race on a nice open strip up there, right off Oralabor Rd-i think E 29th? on the very southeast edge of town . Im sure its all developed up there by now
If you want to run your car at Eddyville before this season is over -- send me a PM - i race there all the time.
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On Tour!!
Reged: Jul 11 2004
Loc: Strange Weather, IA
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What 1/4 mile time does your AAR cuda run? Just curious because it's harder to put down that kind of power on the street on crappy asphalt with a torqey rwd than a awd car that's softer on the bottom end. You could easily spin hard on the launch and he could have hooked hard and put a length on you right at launch. Once you hooked I'm sure you'd have reeled him in but in his mind he'd have already won. That and I'm sure you're not gonna be lifting any tires on the street. Surface streets are just not that great for traction: dust, dirt, asphalt hurt a rwd more than a awd. But then even if you did a horrid launch there's every possibility the guy can't drive his own car for crap and you'd smoke him anyway.
This is exactly why we would carry jugs of VHT when we street raced (back in the day) .We would also show up with slicks.
The other guys would get so mad.... we would tell them "you should come out to street race prepared! "
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cudaben1968
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Reged: May 07 2006
Loc: wine valley
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God how I love to lol
69b3gt- look here, goldmember- first said I need to bring cash to race him... So with your whole drive across the country b.s. stuff why not pick on him for saying the same thing?
Gtx Matt- really? do you honestly think pure stock drags are pure stock? for instance a '68 hemi cuda could bust out of the box clicking off 10's as delivered??? Doubtful, do some research. None of these cars ran as good as we get them to do now. The website you provided is nice, but have you ever been to a scca race? showroom stock? Not even close to a stock car, it's all about being the best cheater!!!
Goldmember- ahhh, ignorance is bliss.
my little primered honda will run 13's all day everyday. Does not matter if it's 110 degrees outside or 55. It's cosistant with shift points at 9k. No it isn't the worlds fastest car, I never said it was. All I was saying is be careful or you might get surprised but some jap C***. I have a race car too, and yes it will stomp most any ricer, but I sure wouldn't want to drive it daily with no heater, no wipers, no a/c, no abs,no pdb, no power windows, no interior and almost no exhaust. It's not a regualaly street driven car, but it can go on the street. With its whopping 6mpg i'd be stupid to claim it was a driver.
k5cuda- I'm so sorry I am from the age of txtng (texting) where i use short hand. Mayb u can relax, i'm just happy u can even use a computer!
Dartcuda- If you don't like it, nobody is forcing you to read it, STOP at anytime and go read the newbie forums.
My friend has a 1992 honda civic hatchback with a internally STOCK 2.2 ltr n/a motor on slicks the car runs high 11's and breaks nothing. It's all about hp 2 wt... 220 horse with 1800 lb car including driver.
I used to hate hondas and all rice burners until his car, he took me for a ride. I'm sorry but 11's is fast and yes he beats ur fancy z06's and 1000 cc street bikes on the street. nobody quite knows what to do when their butt was just handed to them by a honda. As far as times go he is about maxed out for a n/a car that is STOCK internals, no head mods, no special cams, no fancy valve jobs, no thin head gaskets, no high comp. pistons, its stock from honda. He runs a ram air setup to the intake manifold from the pass headlight bucket.
But hey I'm just a kid who likes hondas...
It's no wonder we get them and stick to them. Then put it to muscle car guys, why would I want to be part of a group of old men who only talk bad about new cars (things they dont understand). Future plans for my b'cuda do include fuel injection, wideband o2's and all that "black magic" most of which will probably be japanese or chinese made so i guess im really just a ricer at heart 
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On Tour!!
Reged: Jul 11 2004
Loc: Strange Weather, IA
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cudaben -
Please sell your cuda , or whatever "racecar" you have , and buy a honda/toyota whatever and join up at honda.com / ricer.com .
I think you got way too much Soy sauce in your blood son !
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quick77rt
Diggin' The Wing
Reged: Oct 29 2006
Loc: Colorado Rockies
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haSSnHejJWo&feature=related
Now the other side of the coin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qASs_dtGKtY
OP-s possible vid opinion on ricers...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZZUaivf3wg&feature=related
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Tom_Quad
super gas
Reged: Aug 21 2003
Loc: Slower traffic KEEP RIGHT
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In june 09 when I ran my [real] AAR at Watkins Glen at the 2 day Phoenix CMR driving school there was a Mitsubishi in my run group. While it was faster in the turns because it's not a big fat E body [Well my car is not that fat-3450 lbs with driver.]he could not get me off his rear bumper. By the middle of the straightaways
I would be running him over or if we switched positions I would easily run away. Good handling american muscle car with real horsepower eats rice all day long.
Bring on the rice rockets as I need to feed my predator some cholesterol free food. And then for dessert some Daytona flavored watermelon. I am not afraid
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Old School
enthusiast
Reged: Mar 12 2009
Loc: Virginia Beach, VA
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so i guess im really just a ricer at heart
thats what it sounds like
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TheOtherDodge
master
Reged: Feb 09 2003
Loc: Houston, Texas
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"I'm sorry but 11's is fast and yes he beats ur fancy z06's "
But at the end of the day he has a piece of junk that happens to weigh next to nothing while the other has the z06. And z06's are in the 11's off the show room floor.
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ScottSmith_Harms
Doc Bug
Reged: Jan 20 2003
Loc: Spokane Washington
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Goldmember- ahhh, ignorance is bliss.
my little primered honda will run 13's all day everyday. Does not matter if it's 110 degrees outside or 55. It's cosistant with shift points at 9k. No it isn't the worlds fastest car, I never said it was. All I was saying is be careful or you might get surprised but some jap C***. I have a race car too, and yes it will stomp most any ricer, but I sure wouldn't want to drive it daily with no heater, no wipers, no a/c, no abs,no pdb, no power windows, no interior and almost no exhaust. It's not a regualaly street driven car, but it can go on the street. With its whopping 6mpg i'd be stupid to claim it was a driver.
Up front I'll say that your post was pretty even keel and level headed/realistic, no disrespect or anything intended.... However, while reading the above I couldn't help but think to myself "What's the fun/challenge in putting a pumped up chainsaw engine in a hollowed out coffe can?" I mean seriously it's barely what most people would even deem as a real car with everything you mentioned removed, I've owned Go-karts with more amminities, and IMO more style points than a gutted primered Civic as well..
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TheOtherDodge
master
Reged: Feb 09 2003
Loc: Houston, Texas
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"I have a race car too, and yes it will stomp most any ricer, but I sure wouldn't want to drive it daily with no heater, no wipers, no a/c, no abs,no pdb, no power windows, no interior and almost no exhaust."
Ya, that would not be fun...
That's why I have a vehicle with AC, PB, PS, CD, nice bucket seats, quiet, etc and runs low 11's all day... (hopefully some 10.9's soon!)
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goldmember
super street
Reged: Feb 16 2004
Loc: Gainesville,FL
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69b3gt- look here, goldmember- first said I need to bring cash to race him... So with your whole drive across the country b.s. stuff why not pick on him for saying the same thing
Goldmember- ahhh, ignorance is bliss.
my little primered honda will run 13's all day everyday. Does not matter if it's 110 degrees outside or 55. It's cosistant with shift points at 9k. No it isn't the worlds fastest car, I never said it was. All I was saying is be careful or you might get surprised but some jap C***. I have a race car too, and yes it will stomp most any ricer, but I sure wouldn't want to drive it daily with no heater, no wipers, no a/c, no abs,no pdb, no power windows, no interior and almost no exhaust. It's not a regualaly street driven car, but it can go on the street.
Sorry,you missed the I installed in the challenge to kill your pile of crap. It's a joke!! Get it!! I don't pick on the local Honda pilots and even have buddies with turbo charged/stippers that run pretty well,when they actually aren't broken! Don't bring up what others have for fast cars as it's not important and is useless,YADDAYADDA. I have friends that race 7 second rides on the street for large $$$$,but I'm not the type to claim it has any bearing on my rides or habits. Your really wasting time here. Good luck with your very fast car and your dreams.
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DakFink
member
Reged: Dec 18 2006
Loc: Texas Afghanistan Iraq etc.
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If you run 11's and he was just stock with exhaust, you would have smoked him..BUT..there are many fast DSM's and EVO's out there..
7.70's in the 1/4
9's on race gas and low 10's on pump gas
I always wanted to build on of those Eagle Talon AWD cars.
I remember when the Talon was going 9's he would drive it to Norwalk that thing would squat so hard on launch....you had to see it ...that car is bad ass
A little History on that Talon: That is owned and raced by John Sheppard. He originally bought it as an abandoned project from David Buschur. He was running 10's then 9's and even dipping in the 8's for about 2-3 years in full street trim.(A/C and Heater included) He would even drive it to his day-job 2-3 times a week. In the beginning he was tearing through engines and transmissions like a bad-habit. He got back with David Buschur and has not torn up another engine since. 3-4 years now. As for the transmissions he had to fix that problem on his own. He has created a transmission company based around the beefing up of the trans used in those cars. He is running in the 7's now with a Manual(5-speed) AWD.
Rice or Muscle. I can appreciate and respect them both. Any car/truck in the right hands can be a performer.
Have to cut the kids some slack. Yeah they like Hondas. That is probably all they or their parents can afford. When your under 25yrs old the cost of ownership of a car of any sort is expensive enough. Much less adding the modifying. With the price of things today I would hate to be under 25 and own a MuscleCar, the fuel and maintenance alone would be killer.
I own and modify Rice and Muscle and can see from both sides of the street.
Most Ricers i know aspire to one day have that Muscle Car of their own. BUT they also look at reality and know they have to start somewhere.
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493_DART
On Tour!!
Reged: Jul 11 2004
Loc: Strange Weather, IA
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"Have to cut the kids some slack. Yeah they like Hondas. That is probably all they or their parents can afford. When your under 25yrs old the cost of ownership of a car of any sort is expensive enough. Much less adding the modifying. "
you gotta be F kiddin !!!
I BOUGHT my own car when I was that age . I MOWED LAWNS and washed freakin dishes and De-Tassled corn for HOURS in 98 degree heat to earn money to buy my car when i was 16 .
If their parents are BUYING these kids these Rice boxes -- i have 100% LESS respect for them now !
I remember the pleasure i had when my road runner spanked all the cars in high school , ESPECIALLY the rich kids who's mommy bought the car for them
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Old School
enthusiast
Reged: Mar 12 2009
Loc: Virginia Beach, VA
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AMEN!!!!!
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70 CHARGER 580" 4SP
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 4SP (SUBLIME)
70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 4SP (PLUMCRAZY)
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SB_Duster
addict
Reged: Feb 05 2005
Loc: owt west
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AMEN!!!!!
They only wat to get those import hunks of junk is a turbo and big one at that.
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jcc
No One Knows Why I'm Here
Reged: Dec 21 2003
Loc: Here
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If their parents are BUYING these kids these Rice boxes -- i have 100% LESS respect for them now !
So that's the kid's fault? Gimme a break. With a statement like that, any possibility that you are just maybe a little jealous you didn't have wealthier parents?
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master
Reged: Aug 16 2003
Loc: Idaho
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If their parents are BUYING these kids these Rice boxes -- i have 100% LESS respect for them now !
So that's the kid's fault? Gimme a break. With a statement like that, any possibility that you are just maybe a little jealous you didn't have wealthier parents?
i helped my daughter SOME with her car, so i can see both sides, but i can tell you without out a doubt that the things that were the hardest to get i apreciate the most. i can remember how excited id get over a 50 dollar part.
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72 satellite sebring plus 383/727 panther pink
69 superbee clone 440/727 daughters car
72 dodge dart swinger 318/904
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69B3GT
Eh, I'm bored and want to see how long of a title I can give someone before it cuts me off! apparent
Reged: Oct 04 2008
Loc: Riverside CA. SoCal
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If their parents are BUYING these kids these Rice boxes -- i have 100% LESS respect for them now !
So that's the kid's fault? Gimme a break. With a statement like that, any possibility that you are just maybe a little jealous you didn't have wealthier parents?
i helped my daughter SOME with her car, so i can see both sides, but i can tell you without out a doubt that the things that were the hardest to get i apreciate the most. i can remember how excited id get over a 50 dollar part.
Excited over a 50 dollar part is very understandable. When i first got my dart (a year ago) i was flat broke(still broke) and needed a fuel pump. 26 dollar NAPA special from my dad, boy was i happy to hear that 273 come to life. I even let him drive my beater the first time we took it out.
I would NEVER let my parents buy me a car even if they could afford to .
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gone for good
Reged: Feb 24 2004
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When the time comes i'll help my daughters with their cars in anyway i can,but they both already (ages 10 and 6)know there won't be any rice in my driveway.....
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493_DART
On Tour!!
Reged: Jul 11 2004
Loc: Strange Weather, IA
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When the time comes i'll help my daughters with their cars in anyway i can,but they both already (ages 10 and 6)know there won't be any rice in my driveway.....
probably camaros and novas instead,,,,,,,,,
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493_DART
On Tour!!
Reged: Jul 11 2004
Loc: Strange Weather, IA
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If their parents are BUYING these kids these Rice boxes -- i have 100% LESS respect for them now !
So that's the kid's fault? Gimme a break. With a statement like that, any possibility that you are just maybe a little jealous you didn't have wealthier parents?
Wrong.
I just hate imports - rich or poor .
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gone for good
Reged: Feb 24 2004
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When the time comes i'll help my daughters with their cars in anyway i can,but they both already (ages 10 and 6)know there won't be any rice in my driveway.....
probably camaros and novas instead,,,,,,,,,
No probably a twin to this..
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cudaben1968
enthusiast
Reged: May 07 2006
Loc: wine valley
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493 dart
Thats very impressive you bought your car when u were 16, good for u. as did i. (actually 15) 11 years ago. now here is where the problem lies, would u sell your dart to a kid that wanted a muscle car for an affordable price? i.e. 2500? NO? Hmmm didn't think so. so now we have a market of cars that young kids cannot afford to purchase, maintain or even get gas for.
Well, heck i guess we should look down on them (and myself) and talk smack to them and the cars they have. Even though the blood sweat and tears that go into everyones car are the same. I mean that is unless you pay somebody to turn wrenches on yours...
so now that u have this dart, i have my barracuda and this guy has his... and that guy has a ... all of a sudden the $250 darts and cudas and camaros and novas are gone... and people probably much like yourself want 35,000 for their car. or the guys that have 25k invested and want 12500 for the roller with 90% of the parts to make it run. so yes, lets turn up our noses at hondas, mitsubishis, kias, or whatever has a fart can attached to it. beacause you know what, who cares if they can't afford to buy one of your over priced mid life crisis cars. No excuse!!! you mowed lawns to and ran backwards through corn fields naked in 98 degree heat when u were
16!!!! and lets just analyze this for one second more.... u did all of this while u were 16 and bought a car? obviously it wassn't purrrdeee when you got it. must have been pretty cheeeeeeep! but heck they were around just 10 short years ago, i know cuz i got mine after running backwards through corn fields too
im sorry to all, i just can't seem to stop myself
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-Alcoholics Anonymous, The Big Book
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W5Duster364
super gas
Reged: Jan 20 2003
Loc: Kentucky
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k5cuda- I'm so sorry I am from the age of txtng (texting) where i use short hand. Mayb u can relax, i'm just happy u can even use a computer!
I have had my hands on more computers than you will ever see in your entire life thank you. Was the test engineer overseeing the building of about 6 million desktops/servers for HP. Have a great day now..
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superb70
enthusiast
Reged: May 03 2005
Loc: Rochester, NY
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My buddy's 2005 Evo at the track, Even the quickest street cars in Rochester will not race him on the street... It's DEADLY!!!
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/STM-Evo-100138-14-mile_182357.htm#commentTop
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493_DART
On Tour!!
Reged: Jul 11 2004
Loc: Strange Weather, IA
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Thats very impressive you bought your car when u were 16, good for u. as did i. (actually 15) 11 years ago. now here is where the problem lies, would u sell your dart to a kid that wanted a muscle car for an affordable price? i.e. 2500? NO? Hmmm didn't think so. so now we have a market of cars that young kids cannot afford to purchase, maintain or even get gas for.
Well, heck i guess we should look down on them (and myself) and talk smack to them and the cars they have. Even though the blood sweat and tears that go into everyones car are the same. I mean that is unless you pay somebody to turn wrenches on yours...
so now that u have this dart, i have my barracuda and this guy has his... and that guy has a ... all of a sudden the $250 darts and cudas and camaros and novas are gone... and people probably much like yourself want 35,000 for their car. or the guys that have 25k invested and want 12500 for the roller with 90% of the parts to make it run. so yes, lets turn up our noses at hondas, mitsubishis, kias, or whatever has a fart can attached to it. beacause you know what, who cares if they can't afford to buy one of your over priced mid life crisis cars. No excuse!!! you mowed lawns to and ran backwards through corn fields naked in 98 degree heat when u were
16!!!! and lets just analyze this for one second more.... u did all of this while u were 16 and bought a car? obviously it wassn't purrrdeee when you got it. must have been pretty cheeeeeeep! but heck they were around just 10 short years ago, i know cuz i got mine after running backwards through corn fields too
im sorry to all, i just can't seem to stop myself
Holy crap you are rambling...had too much weed today ?
$35k for my car ? think again-ive got around 10 in it.
and this wasnt my 1st car son . AGAIN - i worked my ass of from when i was 14-16 to earn $ to buy my 1st car.
How much did your mom give you to buy your little civic?
turn wrenches on my car ? I built the entire thing except for the 727.
there are a LOT of A- Bodies still out there, and im sure even more novas/ camaros --so get off your lazy little 16 year old asses and go find them and put your blood /sweat /earnings into those instead of some jap tin can car.
whats with the "run backwards naked thru cornfields" comment ? Put down the bong son ! I may have ran thru them , but I certainly wasnt naked - Those corn stalks would be a little harsh on the ol babymaker...
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beatgoeson
enthusiast
Reged: Feb 24 2003
Loc: Maryland
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Its all about choices. Personally I would prefer to go 14's in a real AAR then 10's in an Evo . These days you can make pretty much anything go fast. I don't care if it runs 7's with a rocket stapped to its butt.It's just another generic, ugly, four door, ricer that will be forgotten in ten years. The thing I see over and over with rice car guys they make some honda go fast and want respect. Just remember whatever they have acomplished an American based v8 muscle type engine has already been there done that!!
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71Chip
enthusiast
Reged: Jun 12 2006
Loc: Vista, CA
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I'm not sure where all these 10 and 11 second pump gas Evos hang out, other than perhaps a few of them in South Texas and South Florida...
If anyone wants to direct me to where they hang out in Southern California, send me a PM...
Also they dont get anywhere near 30 mpg, not even the EPA rates them that high. They are very aggressively geared and spin about 4k to go 80mph in 5th.
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cudaben1968
enthusiast
Reged: May 07 2006
Loc: wine valley
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wow... 493 u obvioulsy missed the entire point of the corn field reference... sadly i guess its a bit much to hope for some kind of higer intelligence. LOL.
I dont get why u guys take everything so dang literal, ok so u dont have 35k in your car (b.s.) how can a kid buy one of these things especially with todays economy and nobody wanting to spend the money for a "kid" to get his car.
I'm going to bet ur from back east huh?
what ever i'm over it...... for now. Ill respond with more fun tomorrow or later, i gotta go get ripped with my bong... idiot... Most people who have AA tag lines u know they are actively in the disease... must be the south east
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Half measures availed us nothing. We stood at the turning point.
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69B3GT
Eh, I'm bored and want to see how long of a title I can give someone before it cuts me off! apparent
Reged: Oct 04 2008
Loc: Riverside CA. SoCal
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Thats very impressive you bought your car when u were 16, good for u. as did i. (actually 15) 11 years ago. now here is where the problem lies, would u sell your dart to a kid that wanted a muscle car for an affordable price? i.e. 2500? NO? Hmmm didn't think so. so now we have a market of cars that young kids cannot afford to purchase, maintain or even get gas for.
Well, heck i guess we should look down on them (and myself) and talk smack to them and the cars they have. Even though the blood sweat and tears that go into everyones car are the same. I mean that is unless you pay somebody to turn wrenches on yours...
so now that u have this dart, i have my barracuda and this guy has his... and that guy has a ... all of a sudden the $250 darts and cudas and camaros and novas are gone... and people probably much like yourself want 35,000 for their car. or the guys that have 25k invested and want 12500 for the roller with 90% of the parts to make it run. so yes, lets turn up our noses at hondas, mitsubishis, kias, or whatever has a fart can attached to it. beacause you know what, who cares if they can't afford to buy one of your over priced mid life crisis cars. No excuse!!! you mowed lawns to and ran backwards through corn fields naked in 98 degree heat when u were
16!!!! and lets just analyze this for one second more.... u did all of this while u were 16 and bought a car? obviously it wassn't purrrdeee when you got it. must have been pretty cheeeeeeep! but heck they were around just 10 short years ago, i know cuz i got mine after running backwards through corn fields too
im sorry to all, i just can't seem to stop myself
Kids that cant afford old cars? maybe just everyone has too high of expectations...my car may very well be a pile but sitting at like 1900 including all the sanding, primer, rims, tires, getting it running, SBP disc swap and the cost of the car (and an A body 8 3/4 housing, backing plates, 71 virgin 340 block that is apart and other things)And i bought my car just over a year ago so cheap cars are still out there, i guess most kids CAN afford to build muscle cars, the fact is they are all hung up on "the fast and the furious" and think they can do the same things. Apparently most kids just choose to drive riced out piles and THINK they are fast. 
Sorry i couldnt stop myself either
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493_DART
On Tour!!
Reged: Jul 11 2004
Loc: Strange Weather, IA
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wow... 493 u obvioulsy missed the entire point of the corn field reference... sadly i guess its a bit much to hope for some kind of higer intelligence. LOL.
I dont get why u guys take everything so dang literal, ok so u dont have 35k in your car (b.s.) how can a kid buy one of these things especially with todays economy and nobody wanting to spend the money for a "kid" to get his car.
I'm going to bet ur from back east huh?
what ever i'm over it...... for now. Ill respond with more fun tomorrow or later, i gotta go get ripped with my bong... idiot... Most people who have AA tag lines u know they are actively in the disease... must be the south east
Back east ?
wow, you cant even read ...
Ahh--Now I see your AA Sig. That explains your incoherent posts. Guess its the brown bottle instead of the bong .
You still think I have $35K in my car ? Wow, you have a lot to learn . I know $35K in a Honda will buy you 10's but that kind of money isnt needed in a big block Chrysler to go 10's .
Again - i actually added up my receipts from the car last year and yes, from 06-08 i had just under 10K in it and it went 10.88 .
I know this is hard to fathom with your Rice Reasoning/ mentality .
I paid $1400 for the car when i bought it in 05' . stock everything / 318 from south Kansas .
heres the pic :
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/solrizzo/before1.jpg
You kids just dont understand bodywork , do it yourself , and car building . It CAN be done. Its called lots of HARD WORK.
You can get off your lazy ass IDIOT and go search for and buy an old mopar anywhere across the country for fairly cheap . But you definitely arent the type to put some sweat into a car project and build something yourself.
Typical silver spoon Mamas boy . Go polish your chrome fart can muffler on your civic .
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DakFink
member
Reged: Dec 18 2006
Loc: Texas Afghanistan Iraq etc.
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"Have to cut the kids some slack. Yeah they like Hondas. That is probably all they or their parents can afford. When your under 25yrs old the cost of ownership of a car of any sort is expensive enough. Much less adding the modifying. "
you gotta be F kiddin !!!
I BOUGHT my own car when I was that age . I MOWED LAWNS and washed freakin dishes and De-Tassled corn for HOURS in 98 degree heat to earn money to buy my car when i was 16 .
If their parents are BUYING these kids these Rice boxes -- i have 100% LESS respect for them now !
I remember the pleasure i had when my road runner spanked all the cars in high school , ESPECIALLY the rich kids who's mommy bought the car for them
I bought my own car as well before I was 16. Worked at a convenient store and Horse farm. Paid $850 for it took me almost 14 months to save up the money. It was a 1981 Chevy Luv (Isuzu). Traded it for 2 vehicles 1970 Chevy Pick-up and a Ford Thunder-bird before I was 16.
I only wish someone would have paid me to Shuck Corn. I had to do it for free in 100*+ Georgia summer heat and Humidity.
All that go out and work and be an Adult at 16 is BS. I was a straight A student in school until I got a job & car. Then fell to barely cutting B's.
Funny how all the kids around me that Mom & Dad helped them get their Cars and Not working were still making Straight A's.
In today's world that old mentality of go out and get a job isn't cutting it any more. Better get the education first.
Even if you do decide and can find a job as a 16 year old your looking at $5-6/hr and maybe 25-30hrs/week that turns out to about $100-180/week. After Fuel and Insurance your Broke. Even if you paid for the vehicle outright.
Times have changed. Either you change and progress with them or get left behind.
Like was said before. Try to buy any kind of Muscle anything today on a Teenagers income??
I sold that 1970 truck I mentioned before in 1993 for $400, today the same heap (it was in sad shape BUT drive-able) would cost you an easy $2500+. And still need another $1000-2500 to be street worthy.
I sold my Feather Duster in 2004 for $2200 thinking I could get another one later for about the same price. Slant-6 4-speed Duster, not very sought after should be cheap. Yeah RIGHT I started looking in 2006 when I got back from Kuwait. Anything that didn't need work just to be able to drive was $5000+.
I got 3 kids of my own.
I'm still debating whether they are even getting cars of their own before they graduate???
Even if I do decide to let them, I'll probably buy it and it will be what ever I can afford at the time, and they will be doing the Work to get it road worthy and the Maintenance. BUT I won't be like my parents who left it all up to me. I will jump in and Guide them. Be a DAD for them.
That's what Dad's are suppose to do support, nurture, and guide your kids. That responsibility doesn't end until you or they die.
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landon1
mopar
Reged: Jun 10 2008
Loc: Ankeny, IA
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wow... 493 u obvioulsy missed the entire point of the corn field reference... sadly i guess its a bit much to hope for some kind of higer intelligence. LOL.
I dont get why u guys take everything so dang literal, ok so u dont have 35k in your car (b.s.) how can a kid buy one of these things especially with todays economy and nobody wanting to spend the money for a "kid" to get his car.
I'm going to bet ur from back east huh?
what ever i'm over it...... for now. Ill respond with more fun tomorrow or later, i gotta go get ripped with my bong... idiot... Most people who have AA tag lines u know they are actively in the disease... must be the south east
i bought my 71 satellite with 440 for 1250 when i was 16, just 6 years ago - until recently with the 440 build, new wiring, gauges, etc. i probably didn't have another 1500 in it, with 500 in new heads and 500+ in new tires, not to mention the 300 in paint for a friend to paint it (that was a mistake, should have paid a pro or done it myself). but, i've busted my ass since i was real young working a minimum of 20 hours per week (construction around 40 hours per week even during high school, except during sports seasons). guess it's just how much work you want to do and time you want to invest - i may not have the best mopar of the young crowd, but it's mine and it runs plus is dependable.
even with my new motor, i'm still probably less than 5 grand, but i do everything myself with "moral support" of family. plus i own an 05 mustang as well - no help buying my cars from my parents, and i've had quite a few.
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'71 Satellite Intense Blue 440
'05 Mustang Mineral Grey 4.0
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cudaben1968
enthusiast
Reged: May 07 2006
Loc: wine valley
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I must have struck a nerve with you buddy  , name calling?  wow. I guess i should go learn how to do bodywork... o wait ive got 4 years of exp. in a PROFESSIONAL shop!!! Oh good god... When i got my car for 1500 in 1998 it was a slant 6 yellow puke bucket. LoL i've got pics too. Ive done the bodywork and paint [got pics], ive done the engine [pics] , ive done the trans [pics], ive done the rear end [pics], ive mini tubbed it [pics]. So what have i not done to it????
So my ghetto azz bucket with a 540 11.5 to comp aluminum headed roller engine and a 250 cheater on it. Built 727 [with goodies in it] and building a d60 for it now, must be slow because I KNOW hondas can be quick... man how stupid am i to beleive that huh? A import with only 4 cly fast... ridiculous.
O and because I am so lazy and I dont know what work is i didnt take on a project for my dad, i didnt restore his 65 coronet. with over 200 hrs of metal and bodywork. nope im just 2 lazy.
So even though i'm only 26 and have documented everything I have done on all of my cars I must be a lazy idiot.
I think I have found my new god. 
If only I were as great as you. lets see the pics of you doing everything to your car, lets see you YOURSELF spraying it out, or carving bondo  or stripping it or pullin a dent, lets see the pics of YOU building your engine, or YOU building your trans or YOU doing... well, anything.
I can prove I did all of it myself. Can you? Or did you pay to have it done?
And 10k for 10.88, thank god your not at my track, sounds like a bomb waiting to go
o ill spell this out for you, since you obviously cannot read very well. I never said u have 35k invested in your car, i said people like you WANT [keyword] (look it up in the dictonary if you must) 35k for your car.
Dakfink- way to man up, you should always want the best for your kids. Thats awesome. I know I will want my kids to have more and be better than I could ever be. Why would i wish worse on them?
I've said my peice, i'm over it, i'm done. if you wanna prove your manhood feel free to pm me, this is a race board. Not a pissing contest.
I'm sorry guys, won't happen again. 
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Half measures availed us nothing. We stood at the turning point.
-Alcoholics Anonymous, The Big Book
Edited by cudaben1968 (Tue Sep 22 2009 11:30 PM)
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493_DART
On Tour!!
Reged: Jul 11 2004
Loc: Strange Weather, IA
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Holy crap....I responded to what you posted . Talk about mentally slow ......(or maybe your drunk?) No, you didnt strike a nerve, its just that I dont take any chit --especially from little D-bags like yourself.
and as far as my car being a "bomb"...its got 4 years on it . Never been apart . Some "bomb" .. huh?
and you also said :
"If only I were as great as you. lets see the pics of you doing everything to your car, lets see you YOURSELF spraying it out, or carving bondo <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bondo.gif" alt="" /> or stripping it or pullin a dent, lets see the pics of YOU building your engine, or YOU building your trans or YOU doing... well, anything.
I can prove I did all of it myself. Can you? Or did you pay to have it done? "
Wow..... you sound like a 14 year old. Let's try one more time ....
AGAIN , (apparently you cant freakin read) , the only thing i didnt build on my car is the 727. I dont know much about transmissions. I never said I was a master body tech / painter / engine builder. All I did was build a Dart on a budget .
Here's the budget build in my little garage . You asked for pics , here ya go genius :
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/solrizzo/1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/solrizzo/22.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/solrizzo/3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/solrizzo/6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/solrizzo/55.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/solrizzo/after.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/solrizzo/2.jpg
I dont have any of me sticking my head in the picture -- sounds like something a fruit like you would do .
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AZ69Charger
pro stock
Reged: Apr 07 2007
Loc: Glendale, Arizona
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i hear you, but like it has been said, technology is amazing, 13's with a 1.8 ltr 30+ mpg to me is killer. dont discount them, they r the new muscle like it or not.
goldmember.... wow just cuz i have a car that is my daily driver, everyday i drive it!!! 230k on the odometer... ya ill bring a spoon to a gun fight. [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean]? why dont u get in ur jalopy drive it out hereto california we can meet up at infineon and ill bring my b'cuda. or will ur car not make the drive???? lol
its a daily driver and all im saying is they r quick. no it aint guna beat a 9 sec. whatever but it passes smog, and is using all internally stock parts. lets see a f.a.s.t car do that.... o wait they dont. they r stroked and extrude honed and huge cams and any other trick u can do. if ur talking full on race car why would u even want to race a honda? is "it" that small u gotta try to prove sumthin to ur self?
Nice sentence structure. Where did you go to school? 
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1969 Charger
440/727/3.23 SG
1978 Plymouth Fury A38 (daily driver)
E-58 360/904/3.21 SG
2001 Durango SLT
4.7/45RFE/3.92 SG
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CompSyn
enthusiast
Reged: Apr 24 2008
Loc: Pacific NW USA
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his is stock with a big muffler, so I wasn't worried about it. He must have used the term to me about riding in or racing his "real car" 3 or 4 times in the 1 day that I saw him.
I think 4 doors are for geeks or mommies.just my opinion. I remember that when I was in high school, if you owned a 4 door and thought it was cool, you got laughed at.
Should have told him that "real cars" increase in value, not the other way around.
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bonefish
master
Reged: Nov 03 2004
Loc: s.w.fl
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i still say,SLAP HIM IN THE EAR!!!
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"when people fear the government there is tyrany,when the government fear the people there is liberty." THOMAS JEFFERSON
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--340srule
gone for good
Reged: Feb 24 2004
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his is stock with a big muffler, so I wasn't worried about it. He must have used the term to me about riding in or racing his "real car" 3 or 4 times in the 1 day that I saw him.
I think 4 doors are for geeks or mommies.just my opinion. I remember that when I was in high school, if you owned a 4 door and thought it was cool, you got laughed at.
Sounds to me like YOU were affraid of getting beat by a "rice burner"..
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493_DART
On Tour!!
Reged: Jul 11 2004
Loc: Strange Weather, IA
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Im going to jump out of this thread - have fun with your 9,000 rpm angry lawnmower beast .
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440Source powered - 6.64/ 10.58 /125mph / 1.44 60' /budget 93 pump gas junker
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